The toughest age to coach or to play

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In my years of experience... it is a 13U team. They are playing against many teams with varsity level players where most of the team has only experienced middle school ball. It is difficult to keep the morale up when they face these types of teams. It is definately a challenge but it is a good challenge. Your thoughts?
 
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Making a 10u team competitive with mostly first year girls has got to be up there on the difficulty scale. :cool:
 
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toughest in regards to kids (on field)? 8u. Off field? 14u and above

toughest in regards to the parents? 12u
 
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10 and 12u must be parent drama 14-16 u is girl drama ? MD
 
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12U is probably the most difficult in my experience of watching and coaching the game.

To name a few issues I've seen that make each bracket challenging and flat out difficult:

10U- first time select ball players, young minds-attention spans, parents getting too involved, shock and aww with the select program, ERRORS, endless mistakes because of poor rec ball coaching or lack of solid coaching and families that have no idea what they've gotten into.

12U- hormones kicking in, deep talent pools, and awesome competitiveness. The kids can actually play well as opposed to having a 9U/10U/11U group that is still some what ridden with mediocre players and are on the verge of "getting it". Huge jump in talent and abilities!

14U- knowing more than anyone and proving it. Figuring out if this is their "nitch" and how much time should I work at home vs. doing nothing like "I" did last year.

16U - a zillion distractions: softball practice, drama, cell phones, drama, break-ups, a job, MY SPACE, "softball practice again", I'm not feeling well..., "Mom- can I skip tonight", am I dedidcated..., drama, what's a girl to do??
 
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I just had this conversation with our current 11u coach. I feel the 11u year was the toughest. Coming out of 10u and adjusting to new things plus I feel the gap between younger to older teams is larger at 12u than 14u. The gaps get smaller as kids get older. I understand Johnnie point but I think a lot of freshman that play varsity jump up to 16u early.
 
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I have coached over 100 sports teams over the years ... boys and girls at all age levels, and both travel and school ball, and without a doubt, the most challenging to coach are high school girls. Travel ballplayers by and large want to be there and work hard for a common goal. Some high school players want to work hard, and some don't ... and then there is the end of the year and senioritis, and more drama than at any other age level. I loved coaching them, but it was without question the most challenging.
 
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IMO the toughest age to coach is the 13U - 16U age level. The very young players are so green that a coach does not have to know more than the basics to really improve their skills and level of play. By the 13U - 16U level most players have developed their skills, not fully, and recognize their talents so a coach needs to be able to incorportat more tactical as well as technical training to really help the player reach their potential. Another thing that makes this age group difficult is the competing interests A 10U or 12U player for the most part doesn't have to decide between a party or boyfriend or trip to ???? with the new drivers liscense many players are lost to these. The older age groups have been tempted by all the new activities and still come to practice and play so they are easier to coach, they are there by choice. Now with all that said coaching a team at any age level is a job and players are lucky there are so many good ones out there.
 
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14U is the toughest in my opinion. The difference between a great team and an average team is so minor, it is hard to make the right strategical choices. Getting the girls to mesh and unify is tough, and dealing with the day-to day drama and commitment issues can make any coach go crazy.
 
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12U seems the worst to me, not only the boy and parent drama, but the girls just finding out where they fit in the world is enough to make your head spin. I have to hope it gets better as they get older...lol
 
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18U! Try geting the girls to commit. Jobs, boyfriends, and cars become priorities.
 
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14U....Jr.High....girls do not like each other.....just there to be seen....sad sad sad :-/
 
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I'm a 12U parent but I don't know enough to meddle. Haven't really seen it in the other parents either. I would think 16U because they are unfortunately getting licensed to drive and have this whole new world opening for them.

My oldest hit a parked car her first month of driving. Now if you can't drive around parked cars look out when you get around the moving ones! ;D Beware in the Fairfield Ohio area!!
 
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sounds like every level as it's own unique and different challenge. I have done jr high and 12u and every year is a little different.
 
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Have you seen all the action action on the 12U coaches poll board ????? I think it confirms some of the above comments.
 
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Have to agree that every age group has its own set of challenges. What follows started as a brief one-line comment, but has ended up being my observations to date:

For me, first year 12Us (11U) are the toughest as a coach. Not so much the kids, but because for many parents this is the first time that little Suzy is on a team where she isn't the "star", and the object isn't just to make sure everyone gets to play. Many times this is also the first time any of the team have met, or maybe you have groups of 2-3 that know each other, but in general the group really hasn't bonded. It's also a time where one year of difference can make a huge difference in the athletic ability, so you have a team (and parents) who are new to travel, and if they're playing a lot of older 12U teams you have a big difference in ability and the wins aren't easy. Throw in a parent or two that has "coached" rec ball and think they know more than the coach because they didn't have this trouble when they coached and aren't afraid to voice their opinion when the coach is on the field (but seldom to the coach), and you have the makings of a very long summer.

Second year 12s are generally a little better. Couple of reasons for this I believe:
  • [1]Most of the team (and parents) know each other.
    [2]They are the older group of the age bracket and will normally be winning more than they lose.
    [3]The malcontents from year 1, have left and been replaced - sometimes with a different set of problems, but even if you replace them with 50% problems you're ahead of the curve from the prior year.

First year 14s. Again you're on the young end of the age group, so all other things being even, you can figure on working for your wins. Parents and kids generally have a couple of years travel experience by this point and so generally have found how to cope with the rigors of playing a tournament every weekend. Still some conflict here though as the girls are maturing at different rates and kids that didn't have to work at being superior suddenly find themselves struggling to keep up >>> parents will start being a little anxious about this point. About 20%-25% of the girls will stop playing travel around this time as other interests kick in and the effort required to remain competitive increases.

Second year 14s. You're still teaching technique, but also starting to stress the mental part of the game - some will get it and some, well.... Still a gap in physical development, but it's closer. Many times this is where you'll see two teams get combined, so you can have some issues there. You'll again see some girls decide to pursue other interests after this season. This is also the time parents start stressing out about what D-I college Suzy will getting a full ride from, and that you as a coach are hurting her chances if she doesn't get 110% of the playing time and recognition. So as a coach, you can expect some "input" from parents. I've seen a lot of teams dissolve after the season at this age.

First year 16s. Cars, jobs, boyfriends... lots of distractions, but most of the girls who were playing for everyone but themselves are gone (still some around, but they're fewer). Anxiety about colleges continues to build. As a coach you're starting to do more tweaking of techniques instead of teaching new ones. Knowledge of the game becomes more critical at this point, and the girls need to be thinking for themselves instead of relying on the coach to make all of the decisions. Pitchers have learned that the fastball isn't the only pitch by this point, and are more in control of a variety of pitches; thus hitting becomes harder and in addition to pitching coaches you now have hitting instructors helping your girls - I've learned never to disagree with what a paid instructor has told the girl/parents, no matter how much I may not agree. The scheduling of showcases and larger tournaments now becomes more of a priority, and makes winning consistently more of a challenge.

Second year 16s. The distractions build, and this is the time that the incoming seniors are really trying and need to be seen by colleges. Also a time where the coach has to start balancing out winning and playing time versus making sure that girls are playing when a college coach is there to see them. Repetition, strengthening fundamentals, and increasing game knowledge are key. Start seeing less of the parents as the girls are driving themselves to practice.

First year 18s. Life is very complicated as half the team has graduated and is either committed to a college or not planning on playing in college, while the other half still wants to be seen and find a college to play for. The challenge as a coach is juggling the need to get half the team ready for their college positions (which may or may not be what you recruited them for), and getting the other half exposure in their preferred positions.

Second 18s. As a general rule you have a mix of players finishing their freshman year of college and graduating seniors, but mainly graduating seniors as the girls who decided not to play in college, don't tend to play in the summer, and some that do play college ball decide to take some time off. Also tend to have a few new faces on the team to replace those that have left, thus the team chemistry is somewhat different. Not as much teaching going on, more repetition and getting the graduating seniors ready to play in college.
 

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