Travel team practice during high school

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Don't the same rules apply to basketball, volleyball, s****r etc. Pretty much any team sport?

 

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I'd be careful about interpreting the word "participated" ... a case could be made that if a person is listed on a lineup card as a sub (and warmed up before the game) that they participated. As some others have said, most travel coaches don't want to take any chance of putting their kids in jeopardy and they shut it down when the girls report for their first official practices/tryouts with the high school team.

 

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@mmich:

Thanks for reminding me of an ambiguity I tried to figure out several years ago and then lost interest in because as a practical matter no one wants to do travel ball after high school tryouts get started.

For upperclassmen, I think the issue comes down to when the "season" begins. The OHSAA Softball regs don't specifically define the beginning of the "season", even though the word "season" appears so many times in the Softball and General regs. The website says that the season begins on March 24. And the Softball regs further support the idea that the season doesn't begin until March 24 when it states that "A preview may be scheduled and played only during the period of time
beginning with Friday (March 16, 2012) before the season begins and ending with the
date of the first regular season game of the teams involved." Reg A.1.8

Interestingly, the Softball regs clearly define the date for the end of the softball season but not for the beginning.

So, the whole thing about whether you are a member of an interscholastic squad is moot if we can trust the web site when it says that the season begins March 24.

And once again I have been reminded while consulting the regs this morning that the entire set of OHSAA regs could use a substantial redrafting.

 

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Don't the same rules apply to basketball, volleyball, s****r etc. Pretty much any team sport?

I wonder if a student is in a play and also in involved in community theater at the same time, are they banned? If a student is in the football band and also plays in the community orchestra at the same time, are they banned? If a student is in the schools choir and also participates in church chorus at the same time, are they banned?

Obviously the answer is no. So the question is why are athletics singled out?

 

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It could get worse very quickly

http://www.ohio.com/news/top-storie...ing-youth-baseball-softball-injuries-1.267118

 

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It could get worse very quickly

http://www.ohio.com/news/top-storie...ing-youth-baseball-softball-injuries-1.267118

That is almost as comical as the people who seriously consider the recommendations....what is this world coming to? As far as this thread, it comes up EVERY year!!! Just stop practicing with your travel team on 2/19 then you have nothing to worry about!!!!!!

 

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Wow as an individual my dd can't hit off the t in the basement? How about play catch with her dad and brother in the back yard. I guess if we use a baseball it would be OK since it can't be confused with a softball.

Got to love Ohio.

As an individual, my dd, if she desires will continue to practice at home if she wants to get more reps in. Me as the parent sees if she has already pitched in 4 games, will shut her down so no overuse injuries happens. I will NOT have a sanctioning body tell me what I can and cannot do with my dd as an individual.

The rule needs re-written.

 

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Wow, same ol **** just a different day.

Flayrays- So your your telling me that at our high school where the girls practice 3 hours a day Monday through Saturday plus keep there grades up is not enough for you and your super duper travel team? When your tb coach thinks he is more important than playing for your school team then I think the TB coaches ego is completely out of control and as a parent I would take control of things quickly.

^^^^^sounds like a HS coach

 

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Unreal that this is even a question. When I was in Cali there was no question. People would not even think about practicing on 2 teams at the same time. High School season is high school season. If a player was caught doing it she would be cut. No questions asked. Although I can't remember any player attempting it.

 

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^^^^^sounds like a HS coach

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:...those darn HS coaches..

 

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coachjwb - and that is exactly my point. The "No Participate" rule does nothing but hurt the players that do have higher level dreams. Those that are fine with the high school goal are prefectly positioned. The ones that want more are tabled.

The "Community Service" line is theirs, not mine. It refers to the social and communal aspects of playing for your communities school team. Again - nothing wrong with that. But in most cases it simply doesn't satisfy some players competitive nature. I will give a couple quick examples.
* Our catcher is a sophomore and plays at a private school. She attends camps at many different colleges. She went with Kirt to Europe this past January. She is a pretty good player, a great student and an even better young lady. In a game this week her team lost 12-10 in 10 innings. Her pitcher hit 9 batters, walked 5 others and her team made 8 fielding errors. Working out with our team on Sundays keeps her sane.
* Our number one pitcher was all-district and region as a sophomore last year. Her team is good, but her teammates are not the type of kids that she would like to hang out with off the field. Without having those sundays to be with her "sisters" she probably wouldn't play HS Ball.
Ever since I was involved with HS softball in Ohio I found it very disturbing that parents are told they had to follow these crazy rules when there are coaches that aren't held to the same standards.

OK - rant over

Maybe as a tb coach you are trying to unfluence your kids against high school ball because your ego is getting in the way.
Maybe you are one of those tb coachs who thinks you are better than the hs coachs and has to put hs ball down to justify your own ego.jmo

I can tell you that my dd has played tb since 10 and been in many world series events, but tb was nothing more than a tool to get better for her high school team. If you ask her she will tell you that her one memory was playing in the state final 4 in Akron while hundreds of classmates and people from the community cheared them on.

 

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I can tell you that my dd has played tb since 10 and been in many world series events, but tb was nothing more than a tool to get better for her high school team.

I completely support HS ball and think it is important for the girls to play if it is available to them, but most of the travel players I know are the complete opposite of this statement. For the girls I know, HS ball is mostly used as a warm up for summer ball. It's fun and you get to play with your friends but travel ball is where the competition is and where they want to be.

 

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Maybe as a tb coach you are trying to unfluence your kids against high school ball because your ego is getting in the way.
Maybe you are one of those tb coachs who thinks you are better than the hs coachs and has to put hs ball down to justify your own ego.jmo

I can tell you that my dd has played tb since 10 and been in many world series events, but tb was nothing more than a tool to get better for her high school team. If you ask her she will tell you that her one memory was playing in the state final 4 in Akron while hundreds of classmates and people from the community cheared them on.

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: Ive always heard the exact opposite.

 

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It's fun and you get to play with your friends but travel ball is where the competition is and where they want to be.

There is no competition in High School?......:lmao:

 

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There is competition in some HS softball.....just not ours. We aren't even in a league. Most of the teams in this area are pretty weak.

 

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Why does it hurt the girls?Do you want to practice 24/7?...The girls are busy playing games and practicing....How much is enough?

 

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Klump-Next time put my entire quote on, not part of it. If you ask the girls at Greenville they will tell you its all about a state title.
By the way, I am sure you are the end all of knowing when it comes to tb so I will bow down to your infinite and all seeing knowledge. Kind of like the Great Karmak on the tonight show huh.:lmao:

 

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Let me start by saying that I am not a huge fan of the OHSAA, but as a HS coach and travel coach I play by their rules...why? It is their game and they get to chose the rules.

I don't hear anyone on here bashing ASA or NSA because its not fair that their kid can't be rostered on two different teams in the same age group....Or why can't my kid play on two different teams at the same tourney!! It's my kid and if they want to play all day long they should be allowed!!! Why should ASA be able to tell me who or how much my daughter plays!!!

This may sound ridiculous....but are just as valid of questions as to why OHSAA shuts travel kids down during HS season!!

You want to know why they do it?...Because these kids would have no life outside softball and as hard as it is for some of you hard heads to understand...it it not good on your daughters body to not have time to rest and recuperate!!

I will finish by saying...your DD will not gain or lose her chance at playing college ball by taking Saturday afternoons and Sundays off from travel ball!! How do I know...my DD did it and she is playing college ball!!;&

 

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Klump- I am sure you are the end all of knowing when it comes to tb so I will bow down to your infinite and all seeing knowledge.

You have another fan Julie:yahoo:

 

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Klump-Next time put my entire quote on, not part of it. If you ask the girls at Greenville they will tell you its all about a state title.
By the way, I am sure you are the end all of knowing when it comes to tb so I will bow down to your infinite and all seeing knowledge. Kind of like the Great Karmak on the tonight show huh.:lmao:

Wave,

Obviously you dont care much for travel ball, You also need to realize you live in one of the few areas that fanatically get behind your one h.s. softball team, which is great the majority of areas dont. Most communities dont shut down the 3 businesses in town when theres a softball game. Im not knocking it, but your view naturally will be slanted more to the school side.
High school ball does have its merits, which has been debated on here about this time every year. BUT...... Outside greenville, travel ball is in fact held in a little higher regard.