7th and 8th grade eligibility question??

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If a girl plays on her 7th and 8th grade school sponsored softball program, is she held to the same restrictions of a high school player? EX: (no practice after 2/21 and no games till scholastic season is complete.)

Specifically, when is a midlle school softball player able to start practicing/playing games with her travel team?? I know it is different with a club team. I need clarification on a school sponsored program.

 

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My DD's school said it was the same rules as high school. I am not sure if they change that by school, but it was always my understanding that middle schools followed OHSAA rules as well.

 

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They do go by the same rules. Only in Ohio.

 

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They do go by the same rules. Only in Ohio.

But only if it's a school-sponsored team, correct? If it's just a club team (ie., all they school provides is a practice space and the right to use their name), I don't think the OHSAA rules apply.

 

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But only if it's a school-sponsored team, correct? If it's just a club team (ie., all they school provides is a practice space and the right to use their name), I don't think the OHSAA rules apply.

Yes, a school sponsored team. I just found out about it and can't believe OHSAA hits these kids so early. Personally, I don't OSHAA should interfere middle school or change their name from OHSAA to OSAA.

 

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This is where the problem lies with jr high girls and softball and school sponsored teams.

Travel coaches .. pick them in August.. spend money on Fall events and then indoor winter practice and tournaments and instruction and when the weather finally breaks to get outside.................. the girls are GONE !!!!!!!

Can't play with their travel teams, can't practice with their travel teams... nothing until the season is over.

I feel.. and this is my own opinion and hopefully shared by some others... that school sponsored junior high ball is absolutely stupid because it throws OHSAA into their lives.. absolutely needlessly.

 

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Remember the 50% rule is also in effect for middle school players as well.

 

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I mean.. come on people... buy the girls cheap uniforms and the cost per home game would only be $40.00 for one umpire and if you got say 12 kids... that comes to $3.33 per kid for home games.

Keeping OHSAA out of your lives until you have to have them in it... is absolutely the best way.

 

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Yep no reason to approach the school to try and get a school sponsored Jr. High program. Make a club team and your life will be much easier. We play school sponsored teams and non-school sponsored teams as a club team. Arcanum, hadn't had a Jr. High team the past couple of years because nobody wanted to do it. But now my younger DD is in 7th grade so I'll have to fire a team back up along with another good travel coach who's DD is in 8th grade.

 

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I mean.. come on people... buy the girls cheap uniforms and the cost per home game would only be $40.00 for one umpire and if you got say 12 kids... that comes to $3.33 per kid for home games.

Keeping OHSAA out of your lives until you have to have them in it... is absolutely the best way.

AMEN! OHSAA is a joke anyhow!

 

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Ringer, you might want to watch playing school sponsored teams.

I have to dig back through my emails with Mrs. Price of OHSAA ... but being a club team and playing a school sponsored team.. might put you in that category.

 

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Roger Delawder and I went through about a week worth of on and off discussion with Ms Price of OHSAA before he help start that league in Marion, Ohio a couple years back.

Wanted to cross the "t's" and dot the "i's" before he started it.

Let me dig in my emails and check

 

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Here's an alternative for jr high teams who play "club" ball in JR High.

Their own regional/state tournament. Other travel orgs.. who are a part of this event... believe the same way I do.

http://www.game-ex.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=35538

Now, the more I am thinking about it... I remember OFC named "Mason Thunder" ( Coach Smith) was on the OFC looking fo school sponsored teams to play because he was school sponsored and nobody would play him because he was.... Nobody in the greater Cincinnati area that is.

 

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KY kids have no issues unless the coach does... oh yeah, KY 6th-8th grade can play varsity too... go figure!

 

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This is where the problem lies with jr high girls and softball and school sponsored teams.

Travel coaches .. pick them in August.. spend money on Fall events and then indoor winter practice and tournaments and instruction and when the weather finally breaks to get outside.................. the girls are GONE !!!!!!!

Can't play with their travel teams, can't practice with their travel teams... nothing until the season is over.

I feel.. and this is my own opinion and hopefully shared by some others... that school sponsored junior high ball is absolutely stupid because it throws OHSAA into their lives.. absolutely needlessly.

Quaker,

Sounds to me that if you agree with this much involvement with softball that you must think all high school sports are stupid.

I coach high school and travel and am a bonafide softball nut and I still think the commintment that some of the travel organizations are requiring and or suggesting the kids to have is what is stupid.

As much as I do not agree with MANY of the things that OHSAA has as far as regulations the area pertaining to participation limits was started years ago to keep overzealous coaches from dominating player's time to not only the childs detriment but to the detriment of participation in other sports.

I would say we have come to the point that demands, not just by softball, are causing athletes to make choices unnecessarily to speciallize. That is either directly with unrealistic demands from programs or the perception by players and parents that they may somehow fall behind.

That is all fine, if that is your choice, but the risk is that the best athletes may not choose your sport when they are pushed to specialize and or from a perents standpoint, they may push thier kids in the wrong direction. I will also say that I still believe that it is not mandatory, in fact, harmful in many circumstances to specialize.

Eleven to twelve months a year to play a single sport??? The pros don't even do that without time off and that is thier job!!!

 

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uh-oh... the OQM signal has just illuminated our dark skies...

POPCORN time again....

 

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Where did I say High School sports are stupid?

OHSAA is stupid and their continued regulations of any game. Did you not read the article in the Columbus Dispatch a few months back... and how OHSAA want to REGULATE even travel ball?

They want to change the Legislative "wording" from "student athletes".. but just to make the wording "student". That way they can control "student" all year long even when they aren't in school !!!!!

 

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The simple fact that the question about the eligability of 11 and 12 year olds has to even be asked makes it stupid.

 

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uh-oh... the OQM signal has just illuminated our dark skies...

POPCORN time again....

Funny Lester. I took my "thorozine" this morning already....

By the way, congrats on winning the Eastern Regionals.

 

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I have to agree with Spirit. I coach HS and travel as well, and expectations and overzealous coaching led OHSAA to adopt the rules they have. Although I don't agree with some of them I understand there purpose.

Without these regulations you have what you have in travel ball at times. Coaches practicing 3 times a week year around, mandatory practices without excused absences, no time off to refuel the tank, not allowing the playing of other sports, no time off what-so-ever.

Also...have had a sanctioned JH team the last two years and LOVE it!!! A paid caoch that is certified in CPR, First Aid, Concussion Management, Sports Med, background checks, busing to and from events, practicing everyday during our season with time off, and no interference from travel team coaches. Thus giving the athlete time to do other things!!

How many of you put your DD on a travel team with a coach that has no idea how to perform CPR, training in what to do with players with asthma, or basic first aid training, let alone they may be a convicted child molester!!! Before bashing OHSAA to much you need to look at the whole picture and understand what your getting and compare apples to apples!!!

Again, I have coached both for years and love them both for what they are, and accept each of there ups and downs.