Hecking a DD.... really...???

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Glad to hear that... our girls stopped cheering last season at 11u .. bugged me at first, they kind of enter into a game mode seriousness now and just go play. Still do the glove slap thing in the field occasionally, it keeps every girl focused and ready - noticed they do it when playing a strong hitting team - seems like a stress reliever to them.

 

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Had our team the last few years and I would NOT let them aim their cheers at the other team. Some of my parents approached me and I would not budge, actually told one parent their kid could play for someone else if it was that bad!

On a second note, had a grown man behind our catcher (select team, but mainly from one school who's logo we used) doing all sorts of yelling and things to distract our pitcher. My wife went up to him after they beat us in pool play by 1 run and gave him an earfull, he laughed and said it is always good for our kids mostly from school RS to beat the team from EC...really ticked her off until last week when our freshman team run ruled their JV team... Revenge on the field, cleanly...I love it!

 

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So Les did you teach this clown to pick on someone his own size in the parking lot? Sadly there are some people that's the only thing they understand.

 

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I try to do the same thing. I dont like the cheer that goes "She stole on you, she stole on you....." and some of the others.

Dont emphasize others mistakes, emphasize your strong points. I try to preach that to the girls all the time, and the parents. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they dont.

However, its always ok to heckle Les.....

 

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I try to do the same thing. I dont like the cheer that goes "She stole on you, she stole on you....." and some of the others.

Dont emphasize others mistakes, emphasize your strong points. I try to preach that to the girls all the time, and the parents. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they dont.

However, its always ok to heckle Les.....

You can always tell an inexperienced bush league team by their cheers. Even my 11s roll their eyes when they hear that one.

The main thing I go for is talking to each other in the field and supporting the pitcher. They are always more ready for what comes next when they are doing this.....

 

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That was the only time I've ever been thrown out of a game, when the opposing scorekeeper/coaches wife was calling my 12 year old 3rd baseman nasty names. I asked blue to do something about it and he wouldn't so I did. You have to protect your players from out of control parents.

 

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This reminds me a classic one.

This must have been 3 years ago. We were playing in a league and just kiiling a team 10U. We put in a girl to pitch that was wild and threw pretty hard. She hit 3 girls in a row and the other coached started yelling at her and pointing at her.

My wife walked out into the middle of the field and said in her best teacher voice (she is a teacher and this is one of her go to lines): "That is just unacceptable behavior....you should be ashamed of yourself.........everyone just went silent.............of course after the game there was almost a brawl after the hand shake (our assistant was not as calm as my wife)........... the other teams assistant asked to come coach in our org after...LOL......and the head coach has his daughter playing with us now and has hung up his coach bucket......

You will definitely see some wild things. But Hockey is still King. My buddy has seen MANY parent fights in the stands. Nothing like that crowd.

 

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You'd think I'd cease to be shocked at these cases of arrested development by now, but I'm not...still takes my breath away every time.

Don't think there's a place for heckling in any age or level of play. In youth sports it reveals a heinous lack of judgement and sure sign of pathetically weak character. In adult/pro sports...it just makes you look like a bitter, jealous loser. Just sayin'...

 

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Not trying to be a smarta$$ because I would not do it personally and I really do think it's bush, but at what age is it okay to heckle a player? It happens in HS, college, etc....

Len

I need to clarify my original post. I think it's bush for an adult to heckle a kid. When I played the players always heckled each other. I caught and I was always heckling the hitter. The first heckle everyone learned was:

"Hey batta batta hey batta batta.....SAWWWIIIIINNG batta!"

Teams would heckle each other all the time, and I'm sure most of you dads out there did the same thing when you were kids. Heckling and talking smack......

Even though it doesn't happen often in fastpitch, I personally wouldn't have a problem if kids were hecking kids as long as the language was kept in check. Heckling has been part of the game forever.

Len

 

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I need to clarify my original post. I think it's bush for an adult to heckle a kid. When I played the players always heckled each other. I caught and I was always heckling the hitter. The first heckle everyone learned was:

"Hey batta batta hey batta batta.....SAWWWIIIIINNG batta!"

Teams would heckle each other all the time, and I'm sure most of you dads out there did the same thing when you were kids. Heckling and talking smack......

Even though it doesn't happen often in fastpitch, I personally wouldn't have a problem if kids were hecking kids as long as the language was kept in check. Heckling has been part of the game forever.

Len

I'll never forget the time I stepped in the batter's box when I was 9 YO and the opposing catcher was singing the Lipton Cup-a-Soup commercial to me. I could not stop laughing and ended up striking out.

 

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I'll never forget the time I stepped in the batter's box when I was 9 YO and the opposing catcher was singing the Lipton Cup-a-Soup commercial to me. I could not stop laughing and ended up striking out.

:lmao::lmao:

I never sung that song but I did sing the Alka-Seltzer jingle before...

"Plop Plop Fizz Fizz, Oh What A Relief It Is!".......I even had umpires in tears at times. Making fart sounds was also successful because no boy or man ignores a good sounding fart, even if it was fake. What I said to the batter depended on what I thought he was: confident, scared, carefree, worried, mad, jovial, etc. I'd let them know if they let a good pitch go by. I'd let them know if they were late. I'd tell them their stance was all jacked up. I'd let out a Rick Flair style "Woooo!" when they'd strike out. I'd say a bunch of different stuff. I wouldn't shut up. I'd question their manhood. I was threatened on more than one occasion...lol.

Len

 

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:I never sung that song but I did sing the Alka-Seltzer jingle before...

"Plop Plop Fizz Fizz, Oh What A Relief It Is!".......I even had umpires in tears at times.

Len

Oh yes, an oldie but a goodie....

 

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I try to do the same thing. I dont like the cheer that goes "She stole on you, she stole on you....." and some of the others.

Dont emphasize others mistakes, emphasize your strong points. I try to preach that to the girls all the time, and the parents. Sometimes they listen, sometimes they dont.

However, its always ok to heckle Les.....

I actually encouraging heckling me....:lmao::cap:

 

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There is always smack talk between players, that's the fun part of the game as long as noone gets too crazy.

 

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In todays HS softball world, so many of these girls know a lot of the girls on opposing teams, from playing travel or playing with them in winter or fall leagues.

My dd has a friend on another hs team that was in a hitting slump, so she asked my dd to throw her a meatball! LOL Of course my dd said No Way! LOL

I know the heckling between some of these teams is all in the fun of competivness! but IMHO it should be between the players, not the adults on the sidelines or in the dugouts. ;&

 

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How about a HS coach who starts screaming "balk" every time the opposing pitcher starts the windup, and has a uniform on, and runs out of the coaching box at 3rd, as long as a runner is on 3rd, screaming...this guy will run down the line, screaming, and then start moving back and forth like abaserunner, and since most of the girls on his team are about his size, it can be confusing...

 

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Heckling of any player by an "adult", from pee-wee through college, is classless and unsportsmanlike.

I'm not saying some friendly trash-talk on the field between girls who know each other is the same as heckling as described at the head of this thread.

Over here in PA, every scholastic sporting event comes under the jurisdiction of the PIAA. You can find on their web site a sportsmanship message that is supposed to be read (but usually is not) before ANY athletic contest.

An official for a game in the PIAA's jurisdiction indeed has the right to stop the game and eject any player, coach, or spectator that says anything demeaning to any player, official, or fan. Call the local police if you have to in order to have that butt-head removed. The argument "I pay my taxes and this is school property" does not hold water. The contest is ultimately under the rule of the PIAA, and the school facilities are under the control of the A.D. I also pay taxes, and this does not give me the right to relieve myself in the rotunda of the capitol building.

I don't know if the sanctioning bodies for travel ball have the same formal policy in place, but they should.

I hope the next time the heckler picks on a player, they find out too late that the player's older brother is the vice-president of the local chapter of Heck's Angels, or happens to be the niece of Tony Soprano.

 

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How about a HS coach who starts screaming "balk" every time the opposing pitcher starts the windup, and has a uniform on, and runs out of the coaching box at 3rd, as long as a runner is on 3rd, screaming...this guy will run down the line, screaming, and then start moving back and forth like abaserunner, and since most of the girls on his team are about his size, it can be confusing...

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Shows you how much he knows. There are no balks in fastpitch softball. There are illegal pitches but not balks. Also, his actions could be construed as offensive interference because the coach, being part of the offensive team, is trying to purposely confuse the defense.

Len