High School Rules Question

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Anybody ever heard of a rule requiring the coach to stay in dugout? I know OHSAA has a lot of poorly implemented rules, but you can always find a logic behind them. Not always sound logic, but logic none the less. But coach being required to stay in dugout makes no sense to me.

 

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If the umpire confined him to the dugout, It is another way to say you have been ejected, but I dont have to do the paperwork

 

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When the coach's team is on defense they are required to be in the dugout - as opposed to sitting on the field giving signs.

 

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Had to deal with this last night. We played on a field with poorly constructed dugouts, and giving the signs to the catcher ****ed. The fence and poles were in the way and the ump kept telling me I had to get inside the fence line. I know it is for my safety but I have been hit by many balls and also had the scorebook to deflect one. Just made it hard to call the game.

 

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http://downloads.asasoftball.com/umpires/pdf/NCAA_NHFHS_and_ASA_Rule_Differences.pdf There are many rules in NFHS that they can restrict you to the dugout for the rest of the game.

 

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NFHS Rulebook: Rule 3-6

ART. 6 . . .

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Only the batter, runner(s), on-deck batter, coaches in the coach's box, bat/ball shaggers or one of the nine players on defense (S.P. 10) are permitted to be outside the designated dugout/bench or designated warm-up areas.(3-5-7)​

NOTE: Bench personnel are permitted to engage in throwing and running activities during the one minute designated for the pitcher to throw her five warm-up pitches at the beginning of each half inning.​

 

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Keeping coaches and extra players off the field during play has been a point of emphasis this year in my association. The logic behind it is safety. It's an NFHS rule, not OHSAA.

I'm assuming you don't mean the coach was restricted to the dugout for some infraction, which is completely different.

 

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Let me clarify coach was steaming about some questionable calls by blue behind the plate, and rather than let his emotions get the best of him and say something he might regret, the coach went behind the dugout to get away from the situation and cool off coach never entered the field of play he wasn't giving signs, he was trying to do the right thing and let the girls play. This is when blue informed coach he had to stay in the dugout. He wasn't restricting the coach to the dugout as a form of punishment, he was informing the coach that the rules prohibited the coach from leaving the dugout to cool off.

 

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Rule 3-6 would cover that (see above), unless he was going to a designated warm-up area.

 

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Funny,I've never seen this question before and it never happened to me before but did last night!Team didn't like our uniforms-so we went with different ones we had in the fieldhouse.I missed a players NEW number.Had it double checked before we started but it seems I had wrote down 2 #6's,illegal substitution,head coach sent to the dugout,Oops.I was sent to the dugout as head coach.My bad,gotta follow the rules.Actually worked out fine.My new 3rd base coach knew what to do,I spent the entire game with the team and the umps didn't notice me running down rightfield with the fans or in the bleachers and back in the dug-out.I had a better view of everything!We won 10-0.I basically spent the entire game with the team,scorebook and made all substitutions and offensive corrections with the team since I wasn't on the field,still.

 

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Let me clarify coach was steaming about some questionable calls by blue behind the plate, and rather than let his emotions get the best of him and say something he might regret, the coach went behind the dugout to get away from the situation and cool off coach never entered the field of play he wasn't giving signs, he was trying to do the right thing and let the girls play. This is when blue informed coach he had to stay in the dugout. He wasn't restricting the coach to the dugout as a form of punishment, he was informing the coach that the rules prohibited the coach from leaving the dugout to cool off.

This Rule has been on the Books for sometime it stems from the day when coaches in the past would sit on buckets or even lawn chairs outside of their dugouts. Before the State mandated that the umpires enforce the rule not much was ever said by the Blues, but there was always the possibility of a player running for a fly ball and tripping over the coaches or their items that were not moved out of the way fast enough. But things have changed, I believe it was 2007-2008 when the State really started hammering us here in Ohio to enforce the rule to keep the coaches inside their dugouts and out of the field of play while their team was playing defense.


"...he was informing the coach that the rules prohibited the coach from leaving the dugout to cool off." I know of no such cool off rule! What if the coach had to go Pee?

As for a coach blowing off steam behind their dugout, personally I have no problem with it and believe the Blue was carrying it alittle to far. But that's his call and not mine!


The best Coaches and Officials, Always sit in the bleachers!

 

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Team didn't like our uniforms-so we went with different ones we had in the fieldhouse.I missed a players NEW number.Had it double checked before we started but it seems I had wrote down 2 #6's,illegal substitution,head coach sent to the dugout,Oops.I was sent to the dugout as head coach.My bad,gotta follow the rules.

Maybe it worked out okay, but it doesn't sound like you should have been restricted to the dugout.

Putting the wrong number on a line-up is NOT an illegal substitution. An illegal substitution is when a player is entered into a spot in the batting order she is not entitled to, or a player who has no re-entry rights is entered into the game, or when an incorrect courtesy runner is used.

There is a new rule for high school softball this year that penalizes a coach for filling out an incorrect line-up card. On the first offense, a team warning is issued. It takes a second offense to have the coach restricted to the dugout.

On the first offense, if the wrong number is on the line-up, there is no penalty other than to correct the number and play on. If a second error turns up later in the game, after a team warning has been issued, then the coach is restricted.

This is a new rule and was heavily emphasized to officials before the season started (and to coaches and administrators who attended the mandatory state meeting). As often is the case, new rules are sometimes misinterpreted or overzealously enforced. If the situation with your player having the wrong number was the first, and only, issue with the line-up card, you never should have been restricted to the dugout!

 

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Does this rule (3-6) also prevent the coach from sitting behind the backstop, behind the catcher?

 

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Bill that space is taken by all the dads that have a pitcher, with those magic radar guns. .

 

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Bill that space is taken by all the dads that have a pitcher, with those magic radar guns. .

Yep. Yep.

Last year while scorekeeping, I wondered out of the dugout and was talking to a parent behind the dugout and the ump ask me to return to the dugout because the opposing coaches had complained that I was not in the dugout.

I just thought that it fell under Rule 3-6. I didn't ask him why, it wasn't that big of a deal. I guess they didn't want me to see what she was pitching.

But hey, that's what the text messages are for from our spies behind the backstop .