Overhand Throwing Speed ?

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If you look at the results from the NFCA Camps in the fielding sessions, you will get a very good idea of what is to be expected and what is average in terms of throwing speed, both overhand and pitching, and just like the number of player pitching in the 65-68 range is RARE, the number of players throwing overhand in excess of 60 is exceptional also. It would seem that the same issues we have in pitching speed are carrying over into overhand throwing.

While there are some basic mechanics and techniques that need to be taught and we always need to protect our players from harming themselves, who is to say what is right and what is wrong, players are not cookies, again mechanics and technique are important, but the bottom line is, EVERY player is different, and it not only is likely but probable that something that works for and protects one player from harm, may cause a problem for another player.

I can't watch a game and tell you if a player is 10 degrees off in the angle of her arm any more than I can tell you if she likes rap or country&western, I can however after 35+ years of being around the game of fastpitch tell you if she is getting rid of the ball quickly enough and whether her throwing motion is helping her or harming her, I have seen players that were all americans that looked like they were trying to slap bees away from them, and I have seen players with text book techniques whose throwing motion was so mechanical that you could time their release and throws with a sun-dial, and as for accuracy.

No one can tell me throwing mechanics will help your 3rd baseman pick up a bunt barehanded and throw as she is falling to the ground and get that lefty at 1st base by an eyelash. If she stopped to pay attention to her mechanics the play is never made, the defensive game of fastpitch is about quickness and reaction, and keeping your feet moving, and maybe most important, BASIC ATHLETIC POSITION, nose over your toes.

I don't have any studies by people in controlled situations to back me up, I don't really care what they do anywhere else, I don't have a protractor and tape measure, or anything to measure lbs per square inch of pressure with me on the practice field, I and 100's of other coaches know how to teach our kids to throw to get outs, and it has nothing to do with speed of the throw or mechanics, it has to do with quickness and energy and the player staying on her toes.

My advice for any coach, make routine outs routinely, put a glove on take the field and TRY to make some of the plays you expect your girls to make, it isn't easy and it just does'nt happen, and there is no study or technique that is a magic panacea, like in life, hard work and focus will make you a success, my definition of success has nothing to do with what or how anyone else thinks the game is played, it has everything to do with being the best that you know you can be and working hard to achieve your best.

Sorry for the soapbox but some of the discussions on this site make me crazy (ier!!)
 
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Maybe now we know part of the reason these high school girls aren't reaching their potential. Explaining WHY time is taken on in-depth motion studies, etc., would be a fruitless exercise at this point. Oh well, as long as the kids are having fun, just stick to old school. But I sincerely hope a few parents will understand that taking advantage of today's technology will create an advantage for their DD, and put her far ahead of the pack.
 
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Too late Len! The stands are already full... and where are the TP warm-ups? Darn! Looks like the team already did those - I don't think he just walks out onto the field and wings one to center field to warm up!!!

But just look at his "warm up" swing mechanics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XZRZ01qeUc&NR=1

Yep - he KNOWS how to throw...
 
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Showing people doing it wrong verses correct does not help, especially when it comes to girls who have predisposed issues to start with.

In my opinion the damage done at the younger age levels is why many of our girls have issues at the college level with the ACL and shoulders.

From a throwing technique issue we have the girls prepare to throw and as they come over the top I grasp the index and social finger of the throwing hand and gently try to pull them forward. IF I feel resistance I try to determine why. Usually they the front leg is stiff and not flexed. Their weight has not shifted and their nose is not over the toes.

We repeat until they can glide forward with no resistance being felt in the fingers.

The next thing is we lock fingers on the glove side hands and I pull her towards me as if the elbow and glove are being tuck under our arm pit or under our shoulder.

She then repeats this and pulls on me and this is timed with her throwing arm coming over the top. It is a basic martial arts move when punching.

Much like hitting the girls have not been taught how to use their legs for throwing or hitting because of balance and weight shift not being taught.

We usually see about a 3 to 8 MPH increase in throwing speed on average.
 
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So, the million dollar question then becomes where do you go in Central Ohio (Westerville) to get the proper training and doing so without breaking the bank. I as a Dad certainly don't claim to know the differences between boys/girls and the proper way to show my 11 year old daughter how to throw (especially if most coaches don't know per this thread). It's obvious even to me that she's doing a couple of things wrong, but I'd hate to provide bad advice, or worse yet, go pay someone to give her bad advice.

Thanks in advance.
 

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