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I've also seen where teams advertise price for amount then say well if we do fall tournament add $50 also lets add another tournament or 2 and you add another $100 oh well we have to train indoors this winter add another $150. Next thing you know you are over $800 so find out facts up front. Just cause the advertise a cheaper amount it may be a lot more when your done.

 

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[background=orange]August 2006[/background]
If a team wanted to do things as cheaply as possible, assuming no one was privately funding the team, here are the costs that I don't see as being avoided:

Tournaments - $2,800 (8 x $350). Of course, add for more tournaments and subtract for fewer.

Insurance - $70 or so.

Sanction fees - $75 or so.

Equipment - $0 to $300, depending on what the coach may already have.

First aid kit with supplies - $30, but really much more if it's going to be stocked decently at all.

Uniforms - $750. This is really going on the cheap, but I suppose it could be done.

That's at least $3,750 going on the cheapest way I could figure. Divided by 12 that's about $310 per girl and leaves no cushion for unforseen expenses, which there are always plenty.

Joe I could see where a team could do it for this price but in reality most teams doing a little a little bit more then that. Over the past two years the tournament entry fees have gone up considerably. For the first time ever our team played three tournaments that were over $500.00 and three others that were $475. The cheapest tournament that we played in was $400.00. The $350 tournaments are still out there but getting farther and fewer between. Also many teams are now playing at least one or two fall tournaments so for example a 14U team might play 10 - 11 tournaments before its all said and done. On the cheap under these circumstances might look like this:

Tournaments - $4,000 (10 x $400). Of course, add for more tournaments and subtract for fewer.

Insurance - $96 or so. (ASA)

Sanction fees - $75 or so.

Equipment - $0 to $300, depending on what the coach may already have.

First aid kit with supplies - $30, but really much more if it's going to be stocked decently at all.

Uniforms - $750. This is really going on the cheap, but I suppose it could be done.

Lets say around $5,000 (I think the very minimum in this case) divided by 12 players = $416.00 This does not include any indoor rental time for the winter, Team helmet, Team Bat Bag, Socks, Spirit gear etc. Now some may agree that these things are not necassary but to some they do matter, and that would effect the cost.


If the extras are added in then the fee could easily reach the $550 - $650.00 range. From what I understand many teams are in this area if their teams play 10 + tournaments and provide the above mention gear and decent uniforms.

 

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I've been to tryouts that range from $500 to $800. It is very expensive!

 

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What should an organization charge if they only furnish 2 uniforms, bags, helmet, and only play in 6 tournaments and none are showcases or maybe only 1 or 2 qualifiers? I've seen some charge $450 plus $100 sponsor fee and if you get a sponsor they only credit 50% of the sponsorship toward the $450? I know an organization that charges this for each player from 10U and up. I'm thinking by your math they are making a profit at $550 per kid? What do you think?

 

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Parts of this thread are three years old, so some of the fees quoted are out-of-date.

 

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Parts of this thread are three years old, so some of the fees quoted are out-of-date.

LOL, just noticed that, thanks for pointing that out.

 

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Remeber folks you get what ya pay for. A team that prepares 11 months out of a year to be the best they can be will charge $700+. There is no way to pretend it only cost $350 per player. It doesn't add up. If they say it only cost $350 and then they make you fundraise for the organization another $350 then it is what it is. I would rather know up front exactly what it cost per player to play travel ball. This is not rocket science.

 

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This past year w/ my 12U Static Black team our fee was $600 per player which included the following (we played 81 games this yr):

14 tourneys
10 league games
bat bag
helmet
hitting jackets
2 uniforms & 2 pairs of socks
pracitce 2 night a week
1 weekend day from Jan - through March for indoor practice
gift bags for both world series we played in
2 embroidered towels w/ our logo to hang their WS pins on

With this said, the uniforms are tunrnd back in unless they bought their own uniform number & if they did, its theirs. I thought $600 was reasonable for the above. A side note, the average cost out of pocket was $250 of the $600 due to fundraisers.

 

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This past year w/ my 12U Static Black team our fee was $600 per player which included the following (we played 81 games this yr):

14 tourneys
10 league games
bat bag
helmet
hitting jackets
2 uniforms & 2 pairs of socks
pracitce 2 night a week
1 weekend day from Jan - through March for indoor practice
gift bags for both world series we played in
2 embroidered towels w/ our logo to hang their WS pins on

With this said, the uniforms are tunrnd back in unless they bought their own uniform number & if they did, its theirs. I thought $600 was reasonable for the above. A side note, the average cost out of pocket was $250 of the $600 due to fundraisers.

So how much was it per player in the end if they kept their own uniform to play on your team??? answer $700-$1000 in the end. Right?? Not $350 like some say

 

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2 sets of our uniforms cost $150 (Teamworks uniforms - best quality). Thus if you did no fundraising (pay all from your pocket) & wanted a number we did not have in the 13 sets of uniforms we already had, then your cost was $750 but you kept the uniforms.

 

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Let's see if I can break this down. We paid $750.00 a player last season.

2 Sets of Uniforms(3 sets of socks)
Bags (We paid for out of pocket $30)
1 Fall Tourny $350
7 Spring Tournys ( I'm guessing between $350-450 a pc.)
Use of Indoor Facility from Nov.-May 2 2hr sessions a wk.
Any indoor scrimmages over the winter we paid for out of pocket

I'm thinking our biggest expence as a team was the indoor Facility. I can't remember exactly how much each team payed to use the facility but it only ended up being maybe $5 bucks a head every two hour session.

 

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Remeber folks you get what ya pay for. A team that prepares 11 months out of a year to be the best they can be will charge $700+. There is no way to pretend it only cost $350 per player. It doesn't add up. If they say it only cost $350 and then they make you fundraise for the organization another $350 then it is what it is. I would rather know up front exactly what it cost per player to play travel ball. This is not rocket science.

Not all the time 4thekids!!!! I will gladly pay $700-$800. a year for good coaching and a well ran Organization but that's not always what you get. I've heard of some who don't care much of what kind of coaching they have as long as their numbers are up to keep their facilitys running.

 

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$550 got the girls 3 sets of uniforms (1 fall/winter and 2 Spring/Summer) and 12 tournaments. Avg price for the Fall Tournaments was $430, winter $290, and Summer $435.

56% of the budget was for Tournaments, 35% for Uniforms, and 9% for field rental, equipment, and supplies.

We ended the year with $4.85 in the bank.

 

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If you are going to compensate non-parent coaches for their motel rooms and or their meals, the fees will obviously have to be higher or the sponsorship money greater. The Buckeye Heat organization has long had the policy of paying motels for head coaches who don't have a daughter on the team, but non-parent coaches pay for all their own meals while traveling. And Rich of the Wave organization is absolutely correct that the tournament fees for the top invitational tournaments have been going up VERY significantly over the past few days.

 

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CGS,

In my organization, regardless if a coach w/ a dd plying or a coach w/out a dd playing, all coaches have to pay for all their own expensives. I was wondering how the parents feel about paying for some of the coaches room expenses. Never approach this subject but just wondering how parents respond - I am sure it can be an icey road to travel.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences

 

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west liberty force is only 200,a competetive team, and yes all the other costs are there but you can use your other 300 for a bat!!

 

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tryouts are this saturday come on over we play 10 or so tourneys plus nationals

 

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Kavin:

We've never had anyone comment to us directly that they begrudge the spending on one motel room, but I think they also realize that we spend a lot of our own money taking fairly high level clinics to improve our coaching skills, a lot of our time networking in other ways that give their daughters improved competition levels, and a lot of our own money on transport expenses (air or car) and meal expenses.

Now since we travel with Casey the Wonder Dog and usually stay at the always pet-friendly Red Roof Inns, we're not talking extreme motel costs for this past season (we also drive back and forth if the tournament is within an hour or hour and a half from our house). I know the coaching expenses have been somewhat higher for other teams in the Buckeye Heat organization at times but I can honestly say I've never heard anyone complain about the organization's policy of paying for the non-parent head coaches' rooms.

I think it also substantially comes down to how much the parents value eliminating the possibility that a head coach making the primary playing time decisions is making those with an eye to whether the head coach's child is playing enough. In saying that, I don't mean that all head coaches unfairly consider their own kid's PT, but we've all seen it happen enough that some non-coach parents would simply like to minimize that possibility and are willing to play the extra money to avoid the drama that sometimes comes with parent head coaches.

 

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Our were $1000 last and this year. Carried 11 players
That got you:

18 tournament 110+ games
Included, Stingrays, Sparks, Music City Hits, Homer Hawks, Circle City
3 uniforms with pants
4 pair of socks
Bat Bag
Helmet
Indoor/outdoor facility
Team Hoody
Team Sweat pants
Personalized Travel Bag
Batting Gloves
Practice Shorts
Practice Jerseys
Turf Shoes
Team Back Sack
Team Slides
Went through 2 jugs nets
Softballs
Went through 60+ whiffle balls
all the other misc stuff - 5 score books, medical supplies, etc.
Website developer
Printed Profiles
It adds up.

 

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we set a fee of $325 for 2009.... collected 150.... played 9 tournaments, played in a fall ball league, played in a spring/summer league, had 3 sets of Teamworks uniforms... girls bought their own helmets and bags.

And gave or will be giving back a whopping $12.00 per player bringingtheir total out pocket expense paid to the team of $138. Not bad.

This was possible with fundraising and sponsors that the girls worked very hard for.

I will change this model for 2010 with more tournaments and higher costs. We always return all money to each player and offer lots of fundraising ideas or a buy out option if they so choose.

Forgot the sweat suit, practice T, socks, and we bought 2 nets, a jugs machine and cart, tons of balls. We are set for next year. We do try to reuse uniforms when possible.