Thoughts on this 'Responsibe Sports' email...

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got this in email...

What do you think?

"Ask permission of a player before giving him or her criticism or correction. For example, "I noticed something that might help you strike the ball better. Would you like to know what it is?". Asking permission gives athletes control, making them more open to the correction. Respect an answer of "no". There will be opportunities to give this information when they are better able to hear it."

 

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I wonder if this would work in the career / job market...:lmao::yahoo:;&

 

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got this in email...

What do you think?

"Ask permission of a player before giving him or her criticism or correction. For example, "I noticed something that might help you strike the ball better. Would you like to know what it is?". Asking permission gives athletes control, making them more open to the correction. Respect an answer of "no". There will be opportunities to give this information when they are better able to hear it."

Sounds much better than what a parents told my nephew this summer during baseball...."You know why you don't hit that ball very good....."
Not a great way to start a conversation with a kid.

 

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Was the Author Dr. Phil?

 

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Guess it depends on the situation, how much the kid/coach work together... just rubs me like the 'every kid gets a trophy' thing .. Are players really that fragile? Alot of times I will say, 'Hey, Let me show you something' .. or 'that really stung didn't it, here's why" ... or ... "Get your elbow up.. focus!' (lol) yea, some I am not proud of...

 

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There's your problem. You guys are ASKING. I just yell at my kid, "Hit the $%#$ *&@# ball!!!!!"

 

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Was the Author Dr. Phil?

That is what I was getting at .. I am not a psycologist, that is beyond my pay grade... made me think though .. there are better ways out there to reach them... by the time I really do become a good coach my kid will be out and I will be retired... maybe the grand kids will benefit

 

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It continues to amaze me with how how country has become the biggest bunch of cry-babies ever. Why all this PC ****?

If the kid needs correction or adjustment they are either willing to accept it or they shouldn't be playing. This is not the Pros, these are young ladies that are out here supposedly trying to become better ball players and fine young adults. Part of that, the biggest part in my opinion, is taking direction from those that are in the position to help them. If I have a player that cannot dialog about an issue that is the first thing that needs to be addressed. JMHO

 

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There's your problem. You guys are ASKING. I just yell at my kid, "Hit the $%#$ *&@# ball!!!!!"

Sounds familiar to my kids too. lol

 

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Guess it depends on the situation, how much the kid/coach work together... just rubs me like the 'every kid gets a trophy' thing .. Are players really that fragile? Alot of times I will say, 'Hey, Let me show you something' .. or 'that really stung didn't it, here's why" ... or ... "Get your elbow up.. focus!' (lol) yea, some I am not proud of...

I don't read it that way. I read it more as a tip for helping the coach give advice/coaching to a willing participant. Its simple psychology but it makes sense. Those who take ownership listen more carefully and are more likely to practice what you are saying to them. I don't see this as everybody gets a trophy mentality. Just a different approach that may work better with some kids.

 

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Candrea said, 'when the student arrives, the teacher will appear" - I like that... the kid has to bring the learning attitude .. until then no instruction will be received.

 

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It continues to amaze me with how how country has become the biggest bunch of cry-babies ever. Why all this PC ****?

If the kid needs correction or adjustment they are either willing to accept it or they shouldn't be playing. This is not the Pros, these are young ladies that are out here supposedly trying to become better ball players and fine young adults. Part of that, the biggest part in my opinion, is taking direction from those that are in the position to help them. If I have a player that cannot dialog about an issue that is the first thing that needs to be addressed. JMHO

Preach it, ... AMEN!

Maybe that would be a fine approach for 8u Rec? Isn't there an implied understanding that in more competitive leagues, and on more competitive teams that you have to step up and improve? Aren't we trying to teach kids to prepare for the "world" (in addition to winning ASA/USA National Championships)??

Oh well .... glad the greatest generation that got us through the Great Depression and WWII (the big one) didn't approach their kids like this ...... but then of course, they didn't have over half the population on Zanax and Ritalyn (or Concerta) either ..... oh oh oh, I can't cope!!!

 

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Its C*R*A*P in my opinion.

A good coach is able to figure out how each player best responds to critisim, instruction and praise and tries to deliver it in the manner that best suits the individual player. A good coach doesnt pick and choose when to instruct based on the players willingness to hear it.

 

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I agree about the whole ownership thing here ... makes sense ... and it also makes sense that different kids respond to different kinds of coaching ... some need to be babied, some need a kick in the butt, and some need something in between. I think a lot of it has to with how they've been raised at home, as well as how they've been taught in the classroom. It's definitely a different world than it used to be, and a coach can feel like they're walking on eggshells. Our team had multiple compliments this past year from other teams on how they observed we coached our girls and/or divvied up playing time, yet we had several complaints within the team that we didn't hand out enough compliments or that we favored one player over another. I guess that's always going to be the case, but it's definitely evolved over the years and more difficult than it used to be ...

 

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got this in email...

What do you think?

"Ask permission of a player before giving him or her criticism or correction. For example, "I noticed something that might help you strike the ball better. Would you like to know what it is?". Asking permission gives athletes control, making them more open to the correction. Respect an answer of "no". There will be opportunities to give this information when they are better able to hear it."

I think this is situational. I also don't think it is the above or "Hey, you ****, do it differently!" that some will leap to. Most good coaches (sports, work, life) have about 10 different ways to approach getting a change to occur and they switch back and forth automatically depending on the situation. I feel if a player is in a fragile emotional state for whatever reason you can and should approach in a more cautious manner.

Sports to me is nothing more than a conduit for life's lessons. Sure it's fun and all that but it can and hopefully is much more. If we ask if it is ok to coach a player maybe an umpire should also ask if it's ok to call a strike? Or heck ask the pitcher if it is ok to call a ball? Is that ok Suzy? No? Well go ahead and take first base, is that enough or would you prefer a home run?

If we get players that need to be treated like the email suggests I can't imagine having to deal with their parents.

 

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There's your problem. You guys are ASKING. I just yell at my kid, "Hit the $%#$ *&@# ball!!!!!"

Now that's funny!

 

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Honestly, think it depends on your players. You get to know them and figure out what works.

 

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got this in email...

What do you think?

"Ask permission of a player before giving him or her criticism or correction. For example, "I noticed something that might help you strike the ball better. Would you like to know what it is?". Asking permission gives athletes control, making them more open to the correction. Respect an answer of "no". There will be opportunities to give this information when they are better able to hear it."

Did the email give an example of a nice way to tell them why they dropped in the batting order or not getting more playing time. I know all kids are different but dd responds better to " This is what i want you to do", some how the whole permission to coach you thing seems like a problem waiting to happen .

 

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This will paint a picture if the player has a good attitude or bad in one question....
Coachable or a File 13 player. I like the "this is what I want you to do" much better than asking permission from a player to teach. Directives works!!!!
Well, I suppose this is 2011 and we dont want to offend a player that makes mistakes by asking them not to.

 

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It continues to amaze me with how how country has become the biggest bunch of cry-babies ever. Why all this PC ****?

If the kid needs correction or adjustment they are either willing to accept it or they shouldn't be playing. This is not the Pros, these are young ladies that are out here supposedly trying to become better ball players and fine young adults. Part of that, the biggest part in my opinion, is taking direction from those that are in the position to help them. If I have a player that cannot dialog about an issue that is the first thing that needs to be addressed. JMHO

Completely agree. Glad the coaches/instructors who worked with my girls didn't ask-they flat out told them.

Don't like it, go to mamby pamby land.