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Well.... we did have parachuters at one of our tourney's last year ... or so everyone thought when they began dropping in around the park ... lol
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Personally, I like other methods of recruiting. Let's say there is a post that is being read quite a bit, like this post, on a certain website, like OFC, for example:
Someone could post in there about how their team, say for example,
Not in this section of the Forum - TheBearMay
Then they could add their team website like this:
www.******.com
To me, that gets a lot of people noticing your team and you didn't really P1$$ too many people off except maybe the person that started the thread.
I know, I am shameless
Someone could post in there about how their team, say for example,
Not in this section of the Forum - TheBearMay
Then they could add their team website like this:
www.******.com
To me, that gets a lot of people noticing your team and you didn't really P1$$ too many people off except maybe the person that started the thread.
I know, I am shameless
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LOL@ Sam!!!!!!!
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The only issue that I see is when a family indicates that they want to return and the team wants them to return, so the coach evaluates talent based on what he/she knows he needs only to find out the family is on the tryout circuit testing the water and decides to leave. That is not good.
Once last tourney/nationals are over if you want to leave or explore other options, have at it - at that point your previous team can try and replace you and you can look for a different team. If you eventually end up back together again, great but at least both parties were working from the same information. But that's not the way it happens. Typically the player's family doesn't want to let the cat out of the bag because what happens if they can't find a better place or the team finds a replacement quickly.
BTW, I would feel the same way if a coach said he wanted a player to stay only to cut her loose after he found out he could get someone better. That is equally as bad.
Once last tourney/nationals are over if you want to leave or explore other options, have at it - at that point your previous team can try and replace you and you can look for a different team. If you eventually end up back together again, great but at least both parties were working from the same information. But that's not the way it happens. Typically the player's family doesn't want to let the cat out of the bag because what happens if they can't find a better place or the team finds a replacement quickly.
BTW, I would feel the same way if a coach said he wanted a player to stay only to cut her loose after he found out he could get someone better. That is equally as bad.
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I just need to laugh at who made whom better and all that noise... Yes while it may be disheartening to see some move on for whatever personal reasons they make. It's their choice... Nobody owns anyone and some may feel the opportunity to try and one see if they can stack up against some of those kids trying out for some of those bigger orgs and feel amazed when they have reached that pinnacle.
Yes, some of the big ones are watered down compared to 15 years a when there were true annual Super Teams out there, but those days are gone....
Don't get po'd at them for doing so, sure many have helped them along the way... hopefully they take the good things you all instill in them on and off the fields and do something with it. Then you've done your job as a coach. If you just teach them about winning, you've failed.
Yes, some of the big ones are watered down compared to 15 years a when there were true annual Super Teams out there, but those days are gone....
Don't get po'd at them for doing so, sure many have helped them along the way... hopefully they take the good things you all instill in them on and off the fields and do something with it. Then you've done your job as a coach. If you just teach them about winning, you've failed.
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Well stated Mike.....
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You're wanting to use this method aren't you? :yahoo:
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Absolutely- there are kids out there that do not need to attend a tryout. Certain kids have a good softball reputation- coaches have seen the kid play and have heard other coaches talk about the kid. This is how teams like the Beverly Bandits and NJ Intestity do it- its all word of mouth
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That happened to us too a few years back. I was approached right at the end of the season. We did not combine, just too many logistics and I truly felt it was not in the girls' best interest on my team. It was however, flattering that this coach wanted many of my players to play with players on his team. We continue to build quite a wonderful team, and I wouldn't trade any of them for the world. They exemplify the definition of "team." And being successful in executing what they learn doesn't hurt either.
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Has anyone else noticed that Stingrays weekend seems to be the start of free-agency talks? Late enough in the season, best players are usually together at one location. Always makes me laugh.
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To take this on a different vein....Do some of you also feel that some parents will team-hop every year in search of the one team that will showcase their dd and their dd only? I have not experienced turnover like this on my team, but I have seen it happen. On the tryout registrations, we ask for past teams and if they have a list and need to turn the sheet over, it screams buyer beware.
My view is very much like Ringers. Its a 1 year commitment. Sure everyone wants to have a core group that carries over year after year, but if a kid/family wants to leave because they aren't getting out of the relationship what they want that needs to be ok.
Now if you could put on the tryout form, "Are you a parent that cause team problems?" and get them to answer that would scream buyer beware.
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Yes and that is understandable. Sometimes it's as simple as age limitation. I was drawing from examples I know of that this has happened to on other teams in our area, and this is definitely the case, that the parent is the root of the problem, not the player. Like I said "some parents will team-hop" and sometimes it does more harm than good.
And I like the bonus question you came up with. :yahoo:
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That's why I drive the golf carts... there's no witnesses.... Only Kidding!!!!! I have none playing.....
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St. Patrick drove the snakes from Ireland. We need a softball saint to drive the snakes away. LoL
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that's funny.:lmao:
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I've seen coaches that can't do the tough parts of coaching and tell some of their players that they don't want them back,and let them linger on. It's the tough part of coaching that nobody likes to do, but has to be done at some time to make your team better for the rest of the team.
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Mike I agree Stingrays is start of what they call in NASCAR the silly season. Being there all day long I really enjoy seeing the coaches try to quietly grab some face time with player and parents but ALSO the parents who just happen to watch every game of a team they are eyeing up.
On the recruiting players topic. The best one this year was a coach who was trying to poach several players from a good organization in the SE by saying he had a commitment from ANOTHER teams #1 pitcher. The pitcher's dad, current coach and I thought that was the most creative snake oil job we had seen!! Wonder how the poaching coach explains at his first practice why the promised pitcher is not there. LOL
On the recruiting players topic. The best one this year was a coach who was trying to poach several players from a good organization in the SE by saying he had a commitment from ANOTHER teams #1 pitcher. The pitcher's dad, current coach and I thought that was the most creative snake oil job we had seen!! Wonder how the poaching coach explains at his first practice why the promised pitcher is not there. LOL
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@fourtwoone.
Ah, sometimes it does seem hardly worth it to be a coach because of these tough choices. Girls not wanting to be coached or to work hard during the TB season because they've been best since they were 11 but now everyone has passed up that player.You really like that player because she has been with the team for its entire existence, but you also know she no longer wants to be coached or to work hard on her own mid-week and she is dragging her team's performance down and will continue to drag the team's spirit down as tensions develop about whether she is coachable or is simply going to demand PT without doing the mid-week work to earn it.
Ah, sometimes it does seem hardly worth it to be a coach because of these tough choices. Girls not wanting to be coached or to work hard during the TB season because they've been best since they were 11 but now everyone has passed up that player.You really like that player because she has been with the team for its entire existence, but you also know she no longer wants to be coached or to work hard on her own mid-week and she is dragging her team's performance down and will continue to drag the team's spirit down as tensions develop about whether she is coachable or is simply going to demand PT without doing the mid-week work to earn it.
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now that is funny stingrays 99!! :lmao:
