Is this common or bush league?

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Going a little off topic here. The cathcer does have the right unless the umpire takes it away. My DD is a cathcer obviously. She had an umpire draw two lines after she got in her set position to her righ and left side.
He told her that if she moved outside the lines that it would be called a ball. How about that one. :yahoo:

I wouldn't have a problem with that....

....as long as the two lines he drew were 8'-6" apart!

But seriously, if the umpire told my catcher that, or wouldn't let her move as far back as she wanted, he and I would be having a discussion about it. If he refused to bend on his ruling, well, then he could explain his reasoning to the protest committee.

 

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kned44,...I understand your response about the "one in the back" was in no way something you wpould consider. However, you will on occasion run across a coach here and there that will practice some sort of unsportsmanlike behavior that he unfortunately is encouraging his players to engage in. I've been in and around travel ball for many years and it is something that does pop up now and then. It's always best to stay calm, speak with the umpires between innings, and at an appropriate time, speak with your players about the do's and don'ts of how to approach the game. So long as you stay calm, your parents will also, and you create an opportunity to teach your young players. Making the transition from boys to girls will take a little time. If it's possible, maybe you can seek the help of amore experienced travel coach to help you with a practice or two to help speed up the girls learning curve. I whole heartedly applaud you for taking this team and exposing them to the nxet step for some of them.

 

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Well, the good news is that you survived the weekend. I'm sure the girls came away with a good idea of what they need to work on to go to the next level.

From the previous posts, it sounds like you were playing against a coach who is teaching to win at all costs. Some of the newer 10U and 12U coaches have this mentallity and that every game is the final game of the World Series. Why? Who knows. Maybe they think some college coach is in the stands looking for a new assistant coach. Or it is a cry for attention, "Look at me, I taught her to do that." Just chalk it up as a learning lesson.

10U and 12U should be about getting girls repetitions and teaching the basics and some advanced fundamentals of the game.

For the future, if your catchers encounter this again, just have the catcher call time and move back in the catcher's box.

 

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I was thinking that if my catcher reaches out like she is going to catch the ball and "grabs" the bat, that would satisfy the contact that the plate umpire mentioned, but what would the penalty on the batter be?

 

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Probably catcher's interference - she should move back.

 

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I am about to get in trouble here. I have never seen this tactic in softball or taught it as a coach, but was taught to do exactly that back in high school baseball. I now you can't compare all things baseball/softball, but I would compare this to a called "swing and miss" by your base coach. The batter is simply trying to distract the catcher. I don't think I have huge problem with this. I lot of people touched on this already, that the catcher should be able to work thru this distraction. My daughter is a catcher. I say this again with it never haven happened to me. What do you think?

 

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jumping on the wagon here.

saw this very thing in a 14u this year. know for a fact it was intentional and is very bush league. dd played for the other team the year before any guesses why we're not there anymore.........

 

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I see nothing wrong if a player has a take pitch sign, for that player to square and fake bunt then pull back on delievery. If you are trying to move a baserunner this will get the defense moving, might make catcher or pitcher lose focus.... Now moving the batter all the way to the back of the box and holding the bat infront of the catchers eyes might be on the verge of bush. You just need to adjust your catcher to deal with it. I would say if you come across this situation again you will be ready for it. Nothing like expierence!

 

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At the younger age groups am pretty sure the coaches are new to travel ball as well and some still have yet to figure out proper softball ettiquette...trust me some of the seasoned softball coaches will soon pull the coach off to the side so as not to embarrass anyone and explain what can happen and what most consider unacceptable in the throws of competition.

 

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hey jonnies, lets come up with some kind of "national treasure/lara croft/da vinci code" encrypted post-type to keep the "names" on the post, and only those people with "addicted/ludacris/plaid" status can view the names..whaddya say?

Funny Ray. If it was a SW Ohio team I would be PM'ing TheRinger or Lenos for who this bush leaguer is but since it's a "Northerner", who cares. In SW Ohio we vote for Bush, drink Bush and play in the bush but we don't act bush!

 

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You don't beat around the bush, do you?

 

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You don't beat around the bush, do you?

he has to get to the next post....no time to hint around for musty...

 

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good one, must...i normally am a ****er for the details, but I dont want my hands bloody from the gossip (although, i AM in a fourm!)...

 

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Pretty sad...But I've seen this work.Awful,that it is a called play on a take.Desperation move!!! I don't agree with it but oh well.I've had this done to our Catcher and have witnessed the sweep to obstruct the catchers view,kind of hard notr to notice this if a batters sweeps prior to the pitch hitting the plate and is holding the bat in the catchers face. Pretty sad but i have never seen an umpire catch this.