Poaching Players

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I recieved a phone call tonight concerning my daughter and whether she would consider another organization even though she had verbally committed to another one. The people from the other organization that made the call knew this but still called anyway. How common is this?

 

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Happens quite often with certain org's.

 

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Very common with a team in our area and also with one of the better known organizations in the state. I just think it say's alot about the type of people these guy's are.

 

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20-20, What did you end up telling them?
What position does your daughter play?
Why would they ask your DD? is she a premier player?
How did they know she was verbally committed?
Did you try out for them?
Inquiring mind wants to know...:cap:

 

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20-20, What did you end up telling them?
What position does your daughter play?
Why would they ask your DD? is she a premier player?
How did they know she was verbally committed?
Did you try out for them?
Inquiring mind wants to know...:cap:

She is a pitcher, left-handed. We tried out for them but when they offered we told them that we had already committed to another team. Then we recieved a call yesterday from the head of the org. asking if there was anyway they could change our mind. I was a bit botherd by the whole thing.

 

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This is when you should be able to name the org!!!

 

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Why complicate things and try out if you had already committed?

 

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Why complicate things and try out if you had already committed?

We had not committed when we went to the tryout....but by the time they offered another team had already offered my dd a position. So when they called to offer that is when we had committed.

 

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I see nothing wrong with it. You've only verballed, not signed on the dotted line. NCAA football recruiters do this all the time. Now, if you've signed on the dotted line and had started practicing with your new team, that's when I'd have a problem

 

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Some people are pretty ballsy, arent they??

 

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So in some regards you had not finished one meal before you started the next....correct.

And I am not trying to make it sound like you have done anything wrong. What I am pointing out is that the people calling are not doing anything wrong either. It is August. This is tryout season. IMO it is not poaching or stealing in August. You went to their tryout....and then went to another teams tryouts. The second team offered before this one and you accepted. Now that the first tryout team has called you are offended and bothered...????

I am sure the question you should ask yourself is if you had both offers sitting in front of you right now and had not committed to either yet, which one would you choose, which one would your DD choose? Some orgs have a system that they follow and they do not offer "on the spot".

It is a long season. And if you went to the first teams tryouts you showed interest first. So not sure why you feel the need to complain.

 

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I wouldn't make that call myself unless perhaps I had a prior/good relationship with the family I was calling. With that being said, I guess I don't have a major issue with the one additional phone call from the head of the organization, as long as they end the call politely and don't try yet again. An excellent response to the question would be that "we appreciate and are honored by your interest, but we have already committed to this other organization, and I am sure you would agree that once you make a commitment to an organization, that they are counting on you and you should follow-through, and that surely they would expect that from their previous commitments as well".

 

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I know, but what if you have your new team's roster is only at 8? Do you have an obligation to this team or is this enough reason to de-commit? Maybe that's why this other team is fishing around at prior tryouts because they know that this scenario is being played out around Ohio at this time. I would have a hard time if this other team never tried this girl out in the first place.

 

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Most players attend more than 1 tryout so to say they did not finish a meal before they started another one is crazy. If the 2nd team already knew of the commitment, than they should have never called to try to 'change their mind'. August or January or May or October......if you are commited to a team you are commited. How would you feel if you had your roster filled and other teams were calling your players to see if there was anything they could do to change your players minds? You can say it wouldn't matter to you but I don't believe it. It isn't poaching anytime of the year IF the player is not committed but once they are....leave them alone!!!!

 

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Saw a post on one of my DD's friends' Facebook pages the other day about how there are several ex-players from her current org at their (his new org's) practice right now - so keep them in mind if her new team isn't what she's looking for. I was like

She had clearly posted that she was part of her new org and was saying how she was going to meet her new team that day, and that was the comment...

 

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Saw a post on one of my DD's friends' Facebook pages the other day about how there are several ex-players from her current org at their (his new org's) practice right now - so keep them in mind if her new team isn't what she's looking for. I was like

She had clearly posted that she was part of her new org and was saying how she was going to meet her new team that day, and that was the comment...

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FastpitchP, had a hard time following your post, too many "She's" (there's a "him" in there too) to keep track, but if this conversation was amongst players, and not coaches, I really don't think its bad. They just want your DD on their team!

 

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FastpitchP, had a hard time following your post, too many "She's" (there's a "him" in there too) to keep track, but if this conversation was amongst players, and not coaches, I really don't think its bad. They just want your DD on their team!

Sorry - I shouldn't try to work and post on OFC at the same time. Post was on DD's friend's Facebook page.

Several ex-players from DD's friend's current org at this practice where the parent was that was posting (male parent).

He (parent) said to DD's friend to keep his daughter's team's org in mind if the friend's new team wasn't what she was looking for.

I thought it was a bit off color, considering that the player was obviously excited to be part of this new org and was excited to go meet her team. From the sound of her posts, it sounded like she was committed to her new team, so the post almost sounded like "hey, lots of other girls didn't like your current org and now they're here with us, so if you don't like it come on over". Almost implying that there was something wrong with it?

Maybe my imagination running wild, but just didn't sit right for someone to post that right on Facebook?

 

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Got it. Yeah, sounds kind of strange. Hate to see and adult try to get into a kids head like that.

 

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The original question was something like - how often does this happen? The answer is very often. And as the players get older it is common place.

 

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Damn, I wish my kids would of received some of these calls. No one ever bothered my kids, should of went to more tryouts or maybe because she played s o c c er.