Scorebook question..

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Heard an argument last night and for my own sanity am curious of how this should be scored in the books. Less than two outs. Runner on third. Batter hits ball to second basemen who boots it. Run scores and batter reaches first.

Is this a Reach on Error for the batter or a sac grounder? Lets say the girl had two legit hits before this. The argument was is she 2 for 3 on the night or technically 2 for 2.

 

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E 4 no hit

 

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SAC Grounder? :lmao:

 

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What is a sac grounder?

It is an E4. Even if the fielder fielded the ball cleanly and got that out at first, she is still 2 for 3. There are no sac grounders.

 

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SAC Grounder? :lmao:

LOl.. sac grounder was a new one for me. I honestly wasn't sure if that was a real thing or not.

 

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It's an e4

 

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What is a sac grounder?

It is an E4. Even if the fielder fielded the ball cleanly and got that out at first, she is still 2 for 3. There are no sac grounders.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

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SAC Grounder? :lmao:

*** IS THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lmao:

 

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If the second baseman was playing back, it's also an RBI. In other words, if the run would have scored even without the error, it's an RBI.

 

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Seriously I’d say E4
but


If the scorekeeper is the pitchers parent it’s definitely an E4, BUT if the scorekeeper on the opposing team happens to be the hitters parent it’s a single and RBI. LOL
:lmao:

 

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It was a sac bunt (slap) that went too far...... LOL

 

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If the second baseman was playing back, it's also an RBI. In other words, if the run would have scored even without the error, it's an RBI.

Having trouble with this one. What I hear is... "Batter hits the ball and becomes the batter runner. Runner from 3rd scores." Batter/Runner, safe or out or reached on error, this should be an RBI. Right? Only way I don't think I score the RBI is if the "error" was throwing the ball away and the runner from 3rd scored on the errant throw. If the runner left for home on contact, it's an RBI for sure. If they broke for home after an errant throw then no. Hmmm. Giving me something to think about.

 

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If the second baseman was playing back, it's also an RBI. In other words, if the run would have scored even without the error, it's an RBI.

Having trouble with this one. What I hear is... "Batter hits the ball and becomes the batter runner. Runner from 3rd scores." Batter/Runner, safe or out or reached on error, this should be an RBI. Right? Only way I don't think I score the RBI is if the "error" was throwing the ball away and the runner from 3rd scored on the errant throw. If the runner left for home on contact, it's an RBI for sure. If they broke for home after an errant throw then no. Hmmm. Giving me something to think about.

Joe's presumption is the runner would score unless the defense was playing in to stop it. While generally true, it certainly isn't the only scenario where the batter could earn an RBI.

I think you have to look at the combination of what the runner did and whether the defense realistically had a play on them based on where and when they were fielding the ball.

 

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It was a sac bunt (slap) that went too far...... LOL

How far is too far for a sac slap?

 

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next up... sac strike out...

she went down looking for a reason... to help the runner advance. She swung over top of the ball to distract the catcher.

 

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E4 Give her the RBI

SAC Grounder ?....now we know how players are hitting .950

 

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Sac grounder that's new I'll have to use that for the dd lol.

 

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Joe's presumption is the runner would score unless the defense was playing in to stop it. While generally true, it certainly isn't the only scenario where the batter could earn an RBI.

I think you have to look at the combination of what the runner did and whether the defense realistically had a play on them based on where and when they were fielding the ball.

Yes, that's correct.

 

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Had the ball been bunted and booted (presumably to a corner infielder or pitcher), probably would be scored as sacrifice (no at bat for hitter), an RBI, and an error allowing the hitter to reach first. The error in this case would not affect the hitter's at bats, but would be important for determing earned runs.

 

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How far is too far for a sac slap?

Depends on if scorekeepers dd is slapping. Outfield maybe. :lmao: