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Hey!!! What about "Mommy-Ball" or "Uncle-Ball"? Or even "Granny-Ball"?

I know if I'm a grandpa coach and my grand-DD is on my team, she's gonna pitch EVERY inning!!! :D
 
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... Our coach does have a rule that parents are not allowed to talk to her about "playing time, play calling, or any other player."

Sounds about right. Our coach requires the players talk to her first about playing time. If the parent isn't sure about the coach's response, they can ask her for clarification.

She also has a 24-hour 'quiet period' after games before discussing anything so that everyone has a chance to cool off. I've seen this on a few teams and think it is a good policy.

Parents are sadly mistaken if they think they can change a coach's mind without establishing credibility and a rapport beforehand. I personally recommend using email because it allows you to carefully consider your words - write the email one day and sleep on it before sending it. It also allows the coach to respond as little or much as they want.
 
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A little off topic....but I got a pretty heated text from a Jr. High mom the other night because her daughter may have to play outfield and she is upset because another player took her spot...and its just not fair her daughter always gets **** on..blah, blah, blah....and the first game hasn't even been played yet!! :eek:
 
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A little off topic....but I got a pretty heated text from a Jr. High mom the other night because her daughter may have to play outfield and she is upset because another player took her spot...and its just not fair her daughter always gets **** on..blah, blah, blah....and the first game hasn't even been played yet!! :eek:

Well I've heard your pretty mean, I hope you were nice in your reply back to the mom......:)
 
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Sounds about right. Our coach requires the players talk to her first about playing time. If the parent isn't sure about the coach's response, they can ask her for clarification.

She also has a 24-hour 'quiet period' after games before discussing anything so that everyone has a chance to cool off. I've seen this on a few teams and think it is a good policy.

Parents are sadly mistaken if they think they can change a coach's mind without establishing credibility and a rapport beforehand. I personally recommend using email because it allows you to carefully consider your words - write the email one day and sleep on it before sending it. It also allows the coach to respond as little or much as they want.


that approach is fine, but a blanket refusal is not right. Maybe alot of of OFC'ers are blessed with good coach's. Thats super , be happy for it, but have a little mercy on us poor souls who have to endure stuff that isn't fair to the players and hurts the school. in both the the W/L column and our reputation. MD
 
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My dd's HS coaches really know the game, put the best 9 out there. My only complaint is, as teachers, they are very long winded!! ;& They take a little to long discussing what they want the girls to do, instead of telling them quickly and getting them out there working on it! ;)

almost perfect then ;)...

I'd take that over the 1000+ issues anyone could have with coaches these days.

Everyone's DD is 100-0 behind the fence or batting 1.000 with a million pefect decisions in the game....You are lucky fo' sho'.
 
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A little off topic....but I got a pretty heated text from a Jr. High mom the other night because her daughter may have to play outfield and she is upset because another player took her spot...and its just not fair her daughter always gets **** on..blah, blah, blah....and the first game hasn't even been played yet!! :eek:

I will never get this complaint.

How is it that people do not comprehend the idea that all good players start out at SS/3rd/P/C. And as you move up the food chain you end up with teams that have girls that have only played those spots. So someone has to learn the other position. And this only helps the girls become better.
 
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I will never get this complaint.

How is it that people do not comprehend the idea that all good players start out at SS/3rd/P/C. And as you move up the food chain you end up with teams that have girls that have only played those spots. So someone has to learn the other position. And this only helps the girls become better.

Do not forget first base..."Anyone can play that" (not one of our coaches btw, this was a parent). :D
 
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that approach is fine, but a blanket refusal is not right. Maybe alot of of OFC'ers are blessed with good coach's. Thats super , be happy for it, but have a little mercy on us poor souls who have to endure stuff that isn't fair to the players and hurts the school. in both the the W/L column and our reputation. MD

There is a line a coach CAN cross when dealing with players that IMO demands parents to get involved because it overwhelms the kid. To me, this would apply to younger players more but I've seen situations where it was necessary at older ages.

It is very rare from my experience but they are out there. By no means should a coach have a free-for-all over the players. I agree it's not a democracy but it's no dictatorship either.

I know a coach that absolutely would not talk to player (even past the 24 hour rules) and was quite rude to the parents that were just trying to get information just this season already. How do you build teams and players when those types of antics are tearing it all apart? How long do you think you'd stay in business if you treated your customers that way?

Just saying...
 
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Do not forget first base..."Anyone can play that" (not one of our coaches btw, this was a parent). :D

This is what I am saying.

I think 1st is the most difficult in some ways. And probably touch the ball more often and consistently than anyone after the P and C. So how anyone can marginalize that position is a mystery.

On every play everyone has somewhere to be. It is that simple. And the more a player understand this concept and where EVERYONE is going ot be on a given play the better they will be.

I talked to a guy who has coached ASA 18U Gold teams in the past and he was telling me that when he coached he would go to early season tournaments and rotate every player in every position every inning. INCLUDING P and C. They would just have a set rotation and let it rip. He said he had some teams that competed at a very high level and I think won some Gold tournaments...........(details missing,I was tired.........at Worlds). At any rate, every position is important. Especially when the ball is hit to that position orrrrrrrrr they are not backing up a throw and things go bad.

A good example was during the college WS last year when the CF was too close to the 2nd basemen and the Catcher air mailed one to the fence.....that was **** poor positioning. Actually I would have to see it again but in my experiance the OF always have a tendency to creep up too far when they should be about 10-20 feet farther back.
 
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If a parent has time to post on a website about "daddy ball",they should have enough time to research the team-travel or school.Read between the lines and know where you stand before you put you and your daughter in that situation.Know where you fit in-many players who excel in one position in travel ball very rarely are called on for that position in school ball.If they are good enough players-know this up front and prepare yourself to further your softball skills by playing another position?Please tell me your STUD is not the best in one position because college will tell you differently unless she is a pitcher throwing over 65 mph or a catcher.Just my opinion-it isn't rec-ball and how many of our kids(as good as they are,or we feel they are) are going D1 with a full ride?

However,it is nice to play on a schoolball team where no dad's or mom's are coaches-but someone will always think they're biased.
 
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If a parent has time to post on a website about "daddy ball",they should have enough time to research the team-travel or school.Read between the lines and know where you stand before you put you and your daughter in that situation.Know where you fit in-many players who excel in one position in travel ball very rarely are called on for that position in school ball.If they are good enough players-know this up front and prepare yourself to further your softball skills by playing another position?Please tell me your STUD is not the best in one position because college will tell you differently unless she is a pitcher throwing over 65 mph or a catcher.Just my opinion-it isn't rec-ball and how many of our kids(as good as they are,or we feel they are) are going D1 with a full ride?

However,it is nice to play on a schoolball team where no dad's or mom's are coaches-but someone will always think they're biased.

Real-life case: DD's junior year in college, her team welcomed a new freshman pitcher who was recruited specifically as a pitcher. About half way through her first season, she started seeing some outfield time. As it turns out, being a very good athlete, she really excelled in the outfield! She retired from pitching entirely, and became a starter in the outfield. She is also now leading the team in batting average hitting over .450 and was recently named league player of the week for two consecutive weeks. I'm guessing her scholarship wasn't reduced any! ;) She found her niche.

The TRUE athletes can play just about anywhere coach asks them to... and they gladly do it to help their team.
 
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We have been on Daddy-ball teams and some of those coaches were really fair and good coaches. Yeah, their DD was on the team but you really couldn't tell a difference. Every player (including their DD) had to earn their spot and got play time accordingly. Good guy as well.

How about "Coachy-ball". My DD's have been on a few teams where the coach didn't have a DD on the team (non-parent coach) but the coach still picked favorites. Just like Daddy-ball but no relation.

I believe everyone can understand a coach picking a few top performers and giving them leadership responsibilities. That seems to a natural order of things. But to favor kids who were struggling and do the same thing? The team just had a weird "karma" around it.

Has anyone else seen this?
 
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In the crowd. Daddy-ball happens even when the coach doesn't have a kid on the team. Just spent the other evening at my dd's basketball banquet listening to the coach tell us how much he will miss one of his seniors who he has coached since the 8th grade. He then proceeded to tell funny little stories how this girl quit at least once every year and would occasionally throw tantrums and walk out of practices. (It happened this year when she was told to run laps.) She walked out of the practice, and came back the next day to a coach with open arms.
The thing is.....the girl is a good ballplayer. She has a scholarship for volleyball. She just has a bad attitude. I would love to be a fly on the gym wall when she pulls this garbage in college.
I'd also like to know what good this coach did for this young lady. The only thing he has really prepared her for is quitting, IMHO.
 
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How about "Coachy-ball". My DD's have been on a few teams where the coach didn't have a DD on the team (non-parent coach) but the coach still picked favorites. Just like Daddy-ball but no relation.

I don't have the quote exact in reference to this but essentially a college coach told her team that was whining about favoritism "Damn right Suzy is my favorite! She's hitting .600+ with runners in scoring position. If anyone else can do that, they'll be my favorite too!"
 
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I don't have the quote exact in reference to this but essentially a college coach told her team that was whining about favoritism "Damn right Suzy is my favorite! She's hitting .600+ with runners in scoring position. If anyone else can do that, they'll be my favorite too!"

This is funny! and hits home a bit this week too! My dd's High School team had their first game this week and unfortunately had to play the best team in our league JMHO They got beat and pretty good! We played them much better last year but after the game a few mothers who's dd's didnt and may not get any playing time were making remarks about those who didnt hit (mine being one of them) and their dd's getting their chance blah blah blah Do they not understand? Coaches want to win! They are going to put who they feel are their best 9 on the field especially in the tough games. I feel for the girls who dont get to play. My dd spent two travel season in a row riding the pine when she was young so we know how much it stinks! However, its High School not rec. ball. Take your kid to extra hitting lessons, encourage them to play more positions and become more valuable to their coaches.. Stop blaming the coaches for having favorites and make your dd work hard to earn a starting position. JMHO
 
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I love high school ball, don't get me wrong ... but by far the 2 worst things about high school ball are not the coaches, or the politics or daddy ball, or anything else but instead:

1) The upperclass girls who think they are entitled to play because they're older
2) The parents who think their DD's are better than the ones playing ... not going to say all coaches play the best ones, but I think most do and the parents of the girls sitting are either too biased or just clueless in some cases ... and when you're losing games, that noise is deafening as a coach ...
 
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In the crowd. Daddy-ball happens even when the coach doesn't have a kid on the team. Just spent the other evening at my dd's basketball banquet listening to the coach tell us how much he will miss one of his seniors who he has coached since the 8th grade. He then proceeded to tell funny little stories how this girl quit at least once every year and would occasionally throw tantrums and walk out of practices. (It happened this year when she was told to run laps.) She walked out of the practice, and came back the next day to a coach with open arms.
The thing is.....the girl is a good ballplayer. She has a scholarship for volleyball. She just has a bad attitude. I would love to be a fly on the gym wall when she pulls this garbage in college.
I'd also like to know what good this coach did for this young lady. The only thing he has really prepared her for is quitting, IMHO.

I think we're saying the same thing, I just named it differently...
 
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If a parent has time to post on a website about "daddy ball",they should have enough time to research the team-travel or school.Read between the lines and know where you stand before you put you and your daughter in that situation.Know where you fit in-many players who excel in one position in travel ball very rarely are called on for that position in school ball.If they are good enough players-know this up front and prepare yourself to further your softball skills by playing another position?Please tell me your STUD is not the best in one position because college will tell you differently unless she is a pitcher throwing over 65 mph or a catcher.Just my opinion-it isn't rec-ball and how many of our kids(as good as they are,or we feel they are) are going D1 with a full ride?

However,it is nice to play on a schoolball team where no dad's or mom's are coaches-but someone will always think they're biased.



research a school team? Really ?Some collages look at wheather your dd played school ball.
I wasnt talking about my dd anyway. Or as you put it the stud.
I was asking about school ball being daddy ball as I see it happening all the time.
EVEN AT THE JR HIGH LEVEL
 
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