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Start a lacrosssse program!
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:lmao::lmao::lmao:.....Although there is some truth in that statement as a *** program will deplete the pool of athletes.
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I bet Whitworth has a good ******** TEAM? look at the bright side they make good bunting trainer sticks!
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Joe teach the mechanics of a ******** swing too?
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How refreshing to see folks recommend that you play the best player regardless of what they did last year or what grade they are in...........if you check the successful programs that go deep in the playoffs year after year, that is exactly what they do......those who say well Varsity only has two spots open without even giving the underclass players a chance to win the position will be mired in mediocrity year after year.
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Good lord do you want to win or not? Why do they deserve loyalty. If they aint good enough do not let them take a spot on the team that some one else could of used. this aint rocket sience.
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hchancocg - please reread my post. I didn't say they should be given somebody else's spot - just the opposite. I basically said that just because they can no longer help you on the field does not mean they can no longer help your team and have no value.
Let's say you have a senior that has lettered her first 3 years, has always been your hardest worker, has always been your player with the best attitude, but has been beaten out her senior year. She is not going to see the field. I have clearly stated that I would not give that player somebody else's spot, but I would never just throw her aside either. She's probably earned a better end to her career than that and yes, as a coach, I would feel some loyalty to this hard-working, dedicated player. She most certainly earned it over her first three years.
What's wrong with having one more player involved with the team? It isn't taking anything away from anyone else. She isn't taking anyone's spot - you are definitely not going to put an underclassman on varsity just to sit.
You are right though - it isn't rocket science...
Let's say you have a senior that has lettered her first 3 years, has always been your hardest worker, has always been your player with the best attitude, but has been beaten out her senior year. She is not going to see the field. I have clearly stated that I would not give that player somebody else's spot, but I would never just throw her aside either. She's probably earned a better end to her career than that and yes, as a coach, I would feel some loyalty to this hard-working, dedicated player. She most certainly earned it over her first three years.
What's wrong with having one more player involved with the team? It isn't taking anything away from anyone else. She isn't taking anyone's spot - you are definitely not going to put an underclassman on varsity just to sit.
You are right though - it isn't rocket science...
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Putting the best players on varsity, at least the starting lineup, should never be a question. What to do with seniors who have been in the program for 4 years is always difficult. While it sounds nice to keep them around somehow and let them know what their roles will be, my experience has been that it just doesn't work very often. If they have any kind of attitude or develop one as the season goes on, they and/or their parents can become a real cancer to the team and the entire program. There are exceptions for sure, but the coaches should be very careful in their selections and then commmunicate very well before just assuming this will work.
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you field the best team possible no matter what grade they're in. at the high school level, its a paid position, so if you dont produce wins, you wont have to worry about it the following year because you wont still have a job. you put the best team on the field, and thats it.
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I am a believer that you should keep all you can. If you can get a freshman team going those freshman could be really good for you in the future. I personally like freshman teams as I feel it gives them some confidence in a transisitonal time of their life.
I would NEVER ask anyone to quit anything. That in my opinion is wrong. I feel strongly about this to the point that if I was that coaches director I would discipline them.
If you must make the tough call you make the tough call and do cuts. You must weigh everything out and make the call.
I am actually furious that a coach would ask someone to quit. Grow a set and cut them but in doing so give them the facts and encourage them to continue to play and improve.
I would NEVER ask anyone to quit anything. That in my opinion is wrong. I feel strongly about this to the point that if I was that coaches director I would discipline them.
If you must make the tough call you make the tough call and do cuts. You must weigh everything out and make the call.
I am actually furious that a coach would ask someone to quit. Grow a set and cut them but in doing so give them the facts and encourage them to continue to play and improve.
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In dtrj's example, and depending on the numbers, I think a good coach can work an experienced senior or two into the team so they make (maybe more than one kind of) a contribution, without changing the win-loss record. And it will show the younger player who just won a spot that he won't just toss her aside when another player comes along.
I understand the idea of playing your best, but in some cases, when the girls have been a part of the team for a couple years, I think a place can be made for them. Communication and honesty with the players is important.
I understand the idea of playing your best, but in some cases, when the girls have been a part of the team for a couple years, I think a place can be made for them. Communication and honesty with the players is important.
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THIS IS A NO BRAINER EVERYONE - you play the best period!!!
seniors, freshman - no difference - this isn't a city league where you pay you play - the point is to get to state and only the best can do that.
if your DD happens to be one of those seniors this year with her positioned threatened because there is a rumor of a better incoming freshman - THEN TAKE LESSONS, work harder - show the coach you can earn that position and keep it - and if your school has enough girls coming out for teams then make another team - so that you can have more girls to choose from next year. "Feeder Teams".
It might be ugly but only the best should play!
seniors, freshman - no difference - this isn't a city league where you pay you play - the point is to get to state and only the best can do that.
if your DD happens to be one of those seniors this year with her positioned threatened because there is a rumor of a better incoming freshman - THEN TAKE LESSONS, work harder - show the coach you can earn that position and keep it - and if your school has enough girls coming out for teams then make another team - so that you can have more girls to choose from next year. "Feeder Teams".
It might be ugly but only the best should play!
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I have read a lot of good things here on this topic. I coach at a relatively small school, so I have never really had this problem. I am going to have a few seniors this year who probably may not see the field very much- two girls who have started in the past, but didn't play last year due to injuries, and my returning DP. I am going to talk to them and let them know where they are. In fact, I already talked to one. I wanted to give her a chance to save face by "deciding" not to come out this year on her own, rather than come to the games and be upset on the bench. Another one may present an attitude problem if she doesn't start (and she won't), so she will get the speech that as long she doesn't complain and is willing to support the team that she is welcome.
Many seniors do not like sitting. If they are told the truth up front many will choose not to play. Granted, it is pretty tough sometimes if you don't follow the players in the off-season to do this ahead of time, but as soon as whatever tryouts you have are over, honesty is the best policy.
The best players have to play. What must be found out though is who can handle the pressure. Two years ago a freshman looked like a lock for shortstop prior to the first game, but after 6 games or so, it became obvious that she wan't ready for varsity competition. Many teams have girls coming out with a lot of travel experience, which negates this issue, but I unfortunately do not.
While parents look at what is best for their daughters, coaches should be looking at what is best for their program. I absolutely hate when a player or parent tells me she should play because of what grade she is in. The only time what grade someone is in truly matters is when I submit my eligiblity form. I do not believe in playing a senior on a JV team unless it is a numbers problem. So again they need to be aware of this. Looking at the numbers provided, I would certainly try to have two JV teams if the talent warrants it. It depends on where the freshmen will play and contribute, and if you can find enough games for 2 JV teams.
Many seniors do not like sitting. If they are told the truth up front many will choose not to play. Granted, it is pretty tough sometimes if you don't follow the players in the off-season to do this ahead of time, but as soon as whatever tryouts you have are over, honesty is the best policy.
The best players have to play. What must be found out though is who can handle the pressure. Two years ago a freshman looked like a lock for shortstop prior to the first game, but after 6 games or so, it became obvious that she wan't ready for varsity competition. Many teams have girls coming out with a lot of travel experience, which negates this issue, but I unfortunately do not.
While parents look at what is best for their daughters, coaches should be looking at what is best for their program. I absolutely hate when a player or parent tells me she should play because of what grade she is in. The only time what grade someone is in truly matters is when I submit my eligiblity form. I do not believe in playing a senior on a JV team unless it is a numbers problem. So again they need to be aware of this. Looking at the numbers provided, I would certainly try to have two JV teams if the talent warrants it. It depends on where the freshmen will play and contribute, and if you can find enough games for 2 JV teams.
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I'm not quoting myself because I feel that I said something earth-shattering.
I just want to make it clear that I never said that they should play over a better player.
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Our school had no seniors last year so everyone returns to tryouts. Can you be loyal to returning letterwinners (senior or younger) if freshmen earn starting Varsity positions and you can only keep 14 girls because they have to share a bus to away games with the boys baseball team?
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