Bush League Yelling/Cheering

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Like I said, want to know if a team is Top Shelf ? Just walk by their dugout and Listen........
Top shelf is not measured by wins/losses it is much more than that.

 

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As for calling us a 10 u rec league team if you have ever actually played us you will know that, that is entirely untrue. We play all over the midwest and this country and took 1st place in the Harrison Shootout tournament. We came out to be 6 & 0 and even ended up playing our other 16 u team in the finals. What a rec program we must be!

 

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I HAVE NEVER HEARD A CHEER THAT HAS WON A GAME. CLASSY TEAMS WOULD NEVER SCREECH AND SCREAM AND YELL FOR THE WHOLE GAME BECAUSE A COACH WITH CLASS WOULD SHUT THEM UP. WANT TO KNOW WHICH TEAMS AND COACHES HAVE CLASS ?? JUST WALK PAST THE DUGOUTS AND LISTEN........

Why are you screaming? you are giving me a serious headache :-X

 

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lol.......oops ;D

 

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I was at the same tournament as Wave16 and I think everyone in attendance knows exactly what team he is talking about. Not only was it allowed by the coach, I would even say "led" by the coach. We want to win with class. Unfortunately not everyone feels the same way.

P.S. I don't believe he was referring to the Ohio Heat Impact.

 

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Nightmare, your team IS Top Shelf. Hope to see your girls again this summer. Good-Luck.

 

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OK,

Here is my take on this. ?Being a "deaf" coach, other teams cheering does not bother me and even when I do hear them I am too focused on the game to even pay attention. ?My current team has never broached the topic of cheering and neither did I. ?They generally do two cheers, a team cheer before the game and the same cheer after the game. ?During the game, there is no cheering. Why not? Well, I guess it is because I ask them to do certain things during the game.

1. Support and offer encouragment to the batters when on offense and the team when on defense. ?These girls would rather hear "nice hit" , "good catch", "good play" from their teammates. ?This is more personal and show care and support for your teammates.

2. Your attention is better served by studying the opponents defense, i.e. who has the strong arm, how strong is the catchers throw, does she try to pick off runner? ?How does the ball rebound off of the backstop? ?How deep does the outfield play? ?

3. Shout out how many outs there are to help remind the runners when on offense and the runners when on defense. ?(Honestly, after the last tournament, we still need to work on this. Partly for the players and the "deaf" coach)

4.When coming back to the bench, inform the rest of the team what the pitcher is throwing and how the umpire is calling balls and strikes. ?

5. Watch how the defense plays the bunt and who covers the bases and even more important, who doesn't cover the bases-especially 3rd.

6. Watch for anything that will help your team, such as the opposing coaches signs or set plays they seem to call in certain situations.

I could go on, but you get the idea. ?Some coaches will say that the cheers motivates their teams. ?Me? ?I think the team that pays attention to the finer points of the game is more prepared to win. ?So far - it has worked well. ?So my feeling is if you want to cheer - be my guest. It does not bother me or my team at all. ? If you want to see a team studying the game - look across the field.

 

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Agree 100%....And Like I said, I have never heard a "Scream or Cheer" that has won a game.

 

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Wave, if you think about it.. if the other team is "cheering" their attention is diverted from the "items" on my list. If they are spending their time with creative cheering and discussing what the next cheer is going to be.. who does that benefit? Their attention is not totally on your team.

I secretly enjoy when a team cheers early in the game and gets quiet later. Honestly, don't you?

 

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;D ;D ;D

 

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I really like Johnnies answer. ?I want the girls to get into the game, not into the cheers. ?We played one team this spring that really enjoyed their screeching and screaming. ?They were really into it, trying to outdo one another. ?I was at 3rd coaching and in between batters walked over to my dugout and asked my players to listen to what was being "screamed" and when. ?Most of the time it didn't make any sense and the timing was horrible. ?Incidently, this team won one game all year- but they sure had fun in the dugout. ?I think I prefer some wins to screeching as a means to having fun. ?

I ?generally don't like cheers either if I think the girls are not paying attention to the details of the game. ?And I know I don't like it when I am trying to say something to my batter and she can't hear me. ?So, I compromise and limit the types of cheers (all positive for us), and when they can be done. ?I also talk to them about volume- a cheer versus a scream.

I think I will copy Johnnies list and ask my players and assistant to add to it (if possible). ?A key to any bench player's morale is for her to feel important. ?I want every player to feel that they are making a contribution.

 

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We were at a game over the weekend and one of our larger players was going up to bat and the girls on the other team started singing "i like big butts..." What do you think of that?

Not the coach or ump said anything and parents encouraged it by saying things like "strike the fat #@! out"

 

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Again....Want to know who the Top Shelf teams are, just Listen to their Dugouts during games.

 

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Incidently, this team won one game all year- but they sure had fun in the dugout. ?I think I prefer some wins to screeching as a means to haqving fun.

The team that cheers last...usually wins.

 

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We were at a game over the weekend and one of our larger players was going up to bat and the girls on the other team started singing "i like big butts..." What do you think of that?

Not the coach or ump said anything and parents encouraged it by saying things like "strike the fat #@! out"

Not THAT is really sad. Aren't you glad that those players/parents are NOT a part of your team?

 

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Well i think that this whole thing is a little bit out of control. If you were not talking about the Ohio Heat Impact then I am sorry about bugging you so much, but i still stand by everything i said. Cheering/screaming is viewed differently by everyone just like everything else in the world is. But for me and my team cheering and screaming no matter how loud and annoying it gets works. And if other teams dont like it then the more power to our cheers its up to every other team to decide how to respond to all the noise. Every team has their own rituals or superstisions and if that is what works for you than that is great, but i dont think that anyone has the right to critisize another teams ways. I know that when i played the Wave i was very excited...for one i got to play against Sarah who i have known since my first year of Heat ball. Sarah, and two other girls on my team have been playing against and with eachother since we all got started. This gave the three of us on my team a lot of energy and we all knew it was going to be a great game. And like we thought our game was probably the most intense game of that weekend. When it was done i couldnt wait to play them again. I thought that the two coaches i talked to were very nice and respectful and when the game was over i didnt think that there was any problems. If you were not talking about my specific team but our other 16U's then i still think you should take into concideration what i am talking about. And you said that in order to tell if a team is top shelf walk by the dugout and listen doesnt make sense to me. I know you dont like cheering but i do believe that we beat you and cheered. So how can your statement about walking by the dugout and listening be true. I mean you can say it was a lucky game all you want but we went 6 & 0 and became the champions. I think that, that says something. If it wasnt my team you were talking about then the same thing still stands true. I dont know if our other team cheered against you or even played you but i do know that by the end of the tournament they were 5 & 1 with their only loss was against us in the finals. I dont know what else to say but that is not luck its talent, and if cheering gets us there then we will keep on cheering. I find being the champions at your teams 2nd summer tournament at the 16u age level very impressive and i plan on winning many more this summer. But back to the cheering. Like i said what works works and every team is different. I have seen some teams do some crazy things before, durring, and after games so if you want to complain about one you might as well take the time to try and metion them all.

 

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There is a good quote that I always like to go by. I used this when I played softball and now I'm teaching it to my team and teams in the future. "Winning without dignity and grace is not winning at all!" I agree with the statements mabe that a coach and team/parents should show class when playing the game(whether you win or lose).

 

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I took the time to re-read all of the post. Unless the colors gave away who you are.. no one mentioned what team they were referring to. ?Your screen name, however, did more to tell everyone what team they were referring to..

Continue to "cheer" if you feel it helps your team. The others are entitled to their opinions also.

 

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The Guilty party knows who they are. The team name was never given, I have been known to make mistakes from time to time though. Hard to keep track of team colors. Bush-League is just that. I can tell you this..........The Worth-Ohio Wave 16u team will never, ever sound like a chicken coop at any tournament. We respect the game and we can take an a** whooping and will never act like idiots at any tournament. I control the conduct of our bench and I will never let our Organization be ridiculed or be called bush league for any reason. We are above that level. We respect the game. When you play my team you will always be able to talk to your players, and you will always be able to hear the umpires calls. I do not put wins/losses above the game. This game is for the girls and to allow bush league play just to put a "w" in the scorebook is giving a big black eye and a bad reputation across the state to any player in that organization.

 

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I have always believed that any game is more than simply winning. I like when our team wins and hope they do more of it, our coaching staff will correct the team if their actions are disrespectful to the other team or the game. If the coaches didn't then I would. My dd and her team cheer for their team and that is it, no insulting other players or teams. Of course there can be instances but not by design.