Pitching and Pitchers Discussion Pitching speed

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Morale of the story, if they can impress the pitcher and her parents on how fast she pitches although it may be exaggerated they will most likely continue to use him or her and keep the pitching coach in lessons.

Never heard of such antics being used but a good marketing strategy at best.


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Another method used by savvy baseball scouts is the simple stopwatch and chart method. This way you can sit anywhere that you have a clear view of both the pitcher and catcher. I call it the poor man's radar.

Use a spreadsheet to calculate and build a "time/speed/distance" table showing speed (mph) and the corresponding time of ball travel (from pitcher's hand to catcher's mitt) in 1/100s of a second. I made up a small laminated pocket card. If you want to be accurate, the distance won't necessarily be 40'. You have to adjust for the release point and the position of the catcher's mitt. So it depends somewhat on the pitcher's stride where she releases the ball.

Not everyone can do this - AND it takes some practice to get accurate repeatable results. I used this method for at least 3 years with very acceptable results - within about 2 mph on average.
 
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Any pointers on the stopwatch method :p :p I have tried to use it and get consistent timesper pithcer.... but my dd and her friend that I use as guinea pigs cannot be throwing the speeds I claculated. Really fast ;D ;D and as much as I owuld love it to be true :eek: :eek:. I actually used a chart from another thread on this site. Any tips to become more accurate I would love. I like the mehtod but doubt my resluts. :-/ :-/
 
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This sounds anal, but if you want good results you have to start with accurate measurements. Here's how I did mine for my DD. I took video of her from about halfway up the first base line (third base would work also), being sure to include the catcher and making sure you can see the pitching rubber and home plate. You need these for reference and measurement. So you're perpendicular to the path of the pitch. Video several pitches - maybe a dozen or so - so you get a good sample of where her release point is.

Now comes the "guestimating" part. Watch the video on TV and freeze it right as she releases the ball. Now you have to estimate how far in front of the pitching rubber this release point is. Subtract this distance from 40'. Now look at how far the catcher's mitt is behind the back tip of home plate, and add this to the distance. This will give you the ball's actual travel distance for 95% of your daughter's pitches - close enough.

I'm not a math wizard, so I looked up the time/speed/distance calculations with Google. If you know how to use Excel, it's pretty easy to build a table to print out.

The hardest part for most people is starting and stopping the watch accurately. You have to start the watch just as the ball is at the release point, and stop it just at contact with the catcher's mitt (the measurement from the video experiment). Like anything, this comes with lots of practice. While your DD is practicing her spins, you can practice your start & stop timing skills. Pick a 1/100 second value (.45 for instance) and practice trying to stop the watch at that number. After a while, you can actually get fairly good at it (or else you'll get so frustrated that you'll chuck the stopwatch in the trash can!). Realistically, you should have a good idea of how fast your DD pitches anyway. If your readings are WAY off of that, you have introduced an errror somewhere.

Hope that helps!
 
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I will have to give that a try. To this point I have only attempted it with live pitching while assume my position on the bucket. ;D
 
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Wouldn't it depend on when the radar gun trigger is pressed?

Moving the device into the path of the ball shouldn't affect the resulting speed, as long as the person holding the gun didn't press the trigger until it was "in line with the ball" and no longer moving.

I thought that reducing the angle between the gun and the ball would improve the accuracy of the resulting speed (maybe not).
 
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Anytime you quickly move the radar gun towards the ball you are closing the gap quicker then the ball is actually moving so your reading will be alot quicker then actuall speed of pitch. How often do you see pro scouts move the radar gun quickly towards pitch ???????????? Right never. ;)
 

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